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Germany's secret plans to derail a British referendum on the EU
The Telegraph ^ | 11/17/2011 | Bruno Waterfield, in Brussels

Posted on 11/17/2011 5:19:14 PM PST by bruinbirdman

Germany has drawn up secret plans to prevent a British referendum on the overhaul of the European Union amid concerns it could derail the eurozone rescue package, leaked documents obtained by The Daily Telegraph disclose.

Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, is today expected to tell David Cameron that Britain does not need a referendum on EU treaty changes, despite demands from senior Conservatives for more powers to be repatriated to Britain.

The leaked memo, written by the German foreign office, discloses radical plans for an intrusive new European body that will be able to take over the economies of beleaguered eurozone countries.

It discloses that the EU’s largest economy is also preparing for other European countries, which are too large to be bailed out, to default on their debts — effectively going bankrupt. It will prompt fears that German plans to deal with the eurozone crisis involve an erosion of national sovereignty that could pave the way for a European “super state” with its own tax and spending plans set in Brussels.

Britain would be relegated to a new outer group of EU members who are not in the single currency. Mr Cameron will today travel to Brussels and Berlin for tense negotiations with Mrs Merkel amid growing disagreement between the leaders over how to deal with the eurozone.

The Prime Minister is increasingly exasperated that Germany refuses to provide more financial help for Italy and other struggling countries amid concerns that the crisis is having a “chilling effect” on the British economy. Mrs Merkel yesterday said she expected Mr Cameron to “examine a stronger involvement with other countries” once the eurozone crisis had been resolved.

She said: “We’ve seen a sovereign debt crisis evolve in some states and particularly those in the eurozone find

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; davidcameron; eu; france; germany; greece; italy; russia; uk; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 11/17/2011 5:19:14 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Oh dear, what an unfortunate photo.


2 posted on 11/17/2011 5:21:24 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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3 posted on 11/17/2011 5:21:56 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: bruinbirdman

Globalists have adoration for open borders and central bankers that rob the rights and treasure of the people. That applies in both Europe and the USA.


4 posted on 11/17/2011 5:22:18 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Churchillspirit

The media is exceptionally shrewd at swaying public opinion towards their agenda with stories, photos and ommissions.


5 posted on 11/17/2011 5:24:07 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: bruinbirdman
People do need to read Germany Plots With The Kremlin by T.H. Tetens. It shows the roots of this European Union.
6 posted on 11/17/2011 5:32:43 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

yitbos

7 posted on 11/17/2011 5:45:36 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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Jawohl, nice waistline.


8 posted on 11/17/2011 5:50:36 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: apoliticalone

Ergot Romney and Perry.


9 posted on 11/17/2011 5:59:59 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Seems like the plan is to make sure the British people, 2/3 which want out of the EU, have no say in their future. Cameron has the opportunity to go down in history as one of Britain best PMs if he would tell this Nazi b*tch to STFU and hold the referendum and get out of that multinational Soviet scheme.


10 posted on 11/17/2011 6:03:45 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Olog-hai

Nazi bitch conquering the world ping.


11 posted on 11/17/2011 6:09:25 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: bruinbirdman

I don’t know enough to make an informed decision on this issue.

I do believe the UK ought to regain sovereign rights...this whole “under one roof” crap isn’t good. I also respect Merkel. She seems to have her head on straight, though I don’t know why she wants to rescue all these countries. Germany really wants to be Europe’s piggy bank?


12 posted on 11/17/2011 6:11:56 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: bruinbirdman

After the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Normans, Napoleon, WW1 and WW2 you would think the British would realize that the European mean them no good.


13 posted on 11/17/2011 6:11:56 PM PST by jpsb
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You forgot the Vikings and Danes.


14 posted on 11/17/2011 6:16:07 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I also respect Merkel. She seems to have her head on straight, though I don’t know why she wants to rescue all these countries. Germany really wants to be Europe’s piggy bank?
It’s not rescue; it’s blackmail. Also a power grab, since the party that Merkel belongs to actually believes it is Germany’s destiny to rule the continent.
15 posted on 11/17/2011 6:27:14 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: wolfman23601

You’re right! Thanks for the correction.


16 posted on 11/17/2011 6:30:14 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Churchillspirit
Really. I'm sure it was not picked at random.
17 posted on 11/17/2011 6:34:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: bruinbirdman

Politicians despise referendums because it gives the people the right to run their democracy for the country instead of leaving it up to corrupt weasels.

For example the USA people have been frustrated at the 35 years of amnesty and do nothing effort to end the invasion of the USA by illegals, that both Parties have supported. If the USA had a referendum on illegal immigration it would end it immediately. There are other issues too that a rented Congress is afraid to address. Iceland told their government via referendum to stick it when their weasels attempted to put the burden of failed private banks on citizens.


18 posted on 11/17/2011 6:39:17 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: wolfman23601; jpsb

The modern Brits are themselves Anglo-saxons, Normans, Danes, etc. — plus of course some Caribbean Africans and now Pakis.


19 posted on 11/17/2011 7:13:16 PM PST by expat2
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The leaked memo, written by the German foreign office, discloses radical plans for an intrusive new European body that will be able to take over the economies of beleaguered eurozone countries.
Thanks bruinbirdman.
Lebensraum!

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