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To: LonelyCon

Can the states also legalize murder, rape and child molestation?

ugh

I wish we had a real candidate in this race.


7 posted on 11/16/2011 12:57:17 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL

Possibly, but that was really dumb.


9 posted on 11/16/2011 1:01:09 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: GeronL

Might play well with the Libertarian (Paulites) vote, but see this as pretty risky with the base...

Cain shooting his mouth off again? Gaffe-a-Minute? Will “clarify” later in the day? Taken out context?


10 posted on 11/16/2011 1:01:47 PM PST by TBBT
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To: GeronL

Might play well with the Libertarian (Paulites) vote, but see this as pretty risky with the base...

Cain shooting his mouth off again? Gaffe-a-Minute? Will “clarify” later in the day? Taken out context?


11 posted on 11/16/2011 1:01:47 PM PST by TBBT
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To: GeronL
Can the states also legalize murder, rape and child molestation?

Are you really that stupid? I mean really?

The laws against murder, rape, and child molestation are primarily state laws NOW, and have been for two centuries.

15 posted on 11/16/2011 1:03:37 PM PST by Brookhaven (The media is throwing smoke bombs at Cain and claiming the smoke is proof of fire)
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To: GeronL
Can the states also legalize murder, rape and child molestation?

Yes, they can.

If you honestly think that the citizens of your State would do that given the opportunity, you need to find somewhere to live that isn't a republic.

16 posted on 11/16/2011 1:04:14 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: GeronL

[ Can the states also legalize murder, rape and child molestation?

ugh

I wish we had a real candidate in this race. ]

All of those are covered by state stautes which means that for murder in texas you can get the death penalty and in New York max is life in prison. If the Dems had their way they would want those under federal control and if the feds said no death penalty they wouldn’t be able execute jack squat in texas.

The feds only get involved in the above cases if the victim or perpetrator was a FEDERAL employee.


25 posted on 11/16/2011 1:09:40 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GeronL
Can the states also legalize murder, rape and child molestation?

There are killings which are legal in some states and murder in others (for example, in Texas it is legal to kill someone who is in the process of stealing your car from your driveway; in New York, that would be murder).

30 posted on 11/16/2011 1:10:43 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: GeronL
Can the states also legalize murder, rape and child molestation?


35 posted on 11/16/2011 1:14:09 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: GeronL; LonelyCon

Back when people had respect for our founding documents they had to pass a constitutional amdendment for the federal government to have the authority to “control” a substance.

But I guess just like Obamacare, the war on (some) drugs is covered somewhere in the pnumbra of the Constitution.


36 posted on 11/16/2011 1:14:32 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: GeronL
I wish we had a real candidate in this race.

Agree. We got nuthin'.

How the hell did this happen? Obama is going to win again, but only because the GOP is the stupid party.

37 posted on 11/16/2011 1:14:50 PM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: GeronL
Can the states also legalize murder, rape and child molestation?

Those are real crimes with actual victims - unlike marijuana use.

43 posted on 11/16/2011 1:18:52 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: GeronL

Yeah, because pot is the equivalent of murder, rape and child molestation. Stupid much? Jeez


45 posted on 11/16/2011 1:20:47 PM PST by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: GeronL
Can the states also legalize murder, rape and child molestation?

Actually, yes. The states individually decide what constitutes murder, rape and child molestation under their own state laws. When one is charged with any of those crimes, it is state law that determines whether there is ground for prosecution.

The comparison between marijuana and rape/murder/child molestation is, with all due respect, absurd.

I am over 60 years old, and over the years I have known many productive people who have smoked pot recreationally at various times in their lives. I'm talking lawyers, doctors and successful business people. Some still do, on occasion. Threatening them with criminal sanction is an outrageous government over reach. Putting them in jail is absolutely counter productive and unjust.

Even if marijuana is to be illegal, that should be done on a state by state basis. Why do the feds need to get involved?

53 posted on 11/16/2011 1:23:45 PM PST by Maceman (Obama: As American as nasei goreng)
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To: GeronL
"Can the states also legalize murder, rape and child molestation?

I'm not sure about the child molestation or rape, but states could, indeed, legalize murder within their sovereign state if they so desired (with certain exceptions for crimes committed against federal officials, on federal property, against ambassadors, etc). Been that way since the founding of the republic.

As it stands now, there are numerous differences among the several states in how degrees of murder are defined.

However, a federal civil rights case could be brought against a murderer - and this has sometimes happened when a state failed to convict a murderer for his crime.

The founders, unlike the current federal government, assumed the states COULD be trusted to do some things for themselves.

55 posted on 11/16/2011 1:24:05 PM PST by In Maryland ("If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?" - Mark Twain)
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To: GeronL

Stupid post of the week award.


58 posted on 11/16/2011 1:25:36 PM PST by steveo
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To: GeronL
Check out Vermont ... they slap rapists and child molesters on the wrist and send them on their way.

Most everything should be left to the states. If you don't like what your state is doing, you are free to move to a state that suits you.

Good grief ... we might actually get control of this country again and you're not in the least bit enthused.

60 posted on 11/16/2011 1:27:06 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: GeronL
What am I missing?

Don't tread on me.

Anything *I* do shouldn't infringe on your rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Anything *you* do shouldn't infringe on my rights to the same.

Alcohol and tobacco are both legal drugs. Both of those do FAR more “infringing” on both the users and on others, causing physical, psychological, social, and financial harm to persons, families, innocent bystanders, and taxpayers.

I really, really, don't see why Conservatives have such a hard time with marijuana, and especially for medicinal use.

Do I personally condone it? Absolutely not. I don't smoke or drink alcohol or do any kind of drugs, nor do I condone any of it. But I think it is entirely hypocritical for the U.S. to legalize alcohol and tobacco, but not marijuana. And I think it's incorrect for Conservatives to be against something IF — IF — IF it doesn't infringe on anyone else’s rights.

69 posted on 11/16/2011 1:31:32 PM PST by BagCamAddict (If Perry had been asked about the Cain 999 plan, he would have said: 9, 9, .......what?)
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To: GeronL

We do! There are none so blind as those who will not see.


82 posted on 11/16/2011 1:50:43 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: GeronL

What?


124 posted on 12/25/2011 10:58:02 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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