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Herman Cain would loosen federal marijuana restrictions
Yahoo News ^ | 11/16/2011 | Chris Moody

Posted on 11/16/2011 12:53:06 PM PST by LonelyCon

At a campaign stop in Urbandale, Iowa, Tuesday, Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said he supports letting states establish their own laws regarding medical marijuana. "If states want to legalize medical marijuana, I think that's a state's right," Cain said, according to NBC News. "Because one of my overriding approaches to looking at all of these issue --most of them belong at the state, because when you do something federally . . . you try to force one-size-fits-all." The federal government restricts consumption of marijuana under current law, but 16 states and the District of Columbia have passed measures to allow use of the drug in some form, causing friction between federal and state authorities. Despite support in years past from President Obama for reforming federal marijuana laws, the Drug Enforcement Agency continues to raid dispensaries that operate where marijuana use is legal on the state level. A Gallup Poll conducted in October found that half of the population supports legalizing the drug. Cain's fellow GOP presidential candidates Texas Rep. Ron Paul and Texas Gov. Rick Perry have also voiced support for allowing state and local discretion

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; dope; marijuana; pothead; wod; wodlist; wosd
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To: LonelyCon

I am more impressed by Mr. Cain every day.


41 posted on 11/16/2011 1:18:07 PM PST by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: Paperdoll

[ But, Mr. Cain, abortion is murder, and murder is a serious crime all over the country. So I am for an appeal of Roe vs Wade. ]

Roe v Wade trampled all over states rights. Because before Roe v Wade a lot of states had banned abortions. After the ruling by 5 crooks in robes the consitution was trampled all over.

I think Cain would like to see that question of the if abortion should be legal should go back to the states like it was before Roe v Wade.


42 posted on 11/16/2011 1:18:33 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GeronL
Can the states also legalize murder, rape and child molestation?

Those are real crimes with actual victims - unlike marijuana use.

43 posted on 11/16/2011 1:18:52 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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44 posted on 11/16/2011 1:19:42 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker dowTn)
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To: GeronL

Yeah, because pot is the equivalent of murder, rape and child molestation. Stupid much? Jeez


45 posted on 11/16/2011 1:20:47 PM PST by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: Brookhaven

[ The statement will play fine, as long as other Republicans don’t play gotcha games.
This fits in with the overall philosophy Cain is putting forward: that too many decisions are made at the federal level that should be made at the state level. When put in that context, I think it will play just fine.

BTW, this is the exact same position Gov. Perry holds, so it’s well within the consrvative mainstream. ]

If a “Conservative” doesn’t support States Rights (even if it could mean their pet issue is weakened) , then they are definately now a Conservative, they are a Big Government RINO.


46 posted on 11/16/2011 1:21:05 PM PST by GraceG
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To: TBBT
No, legalized pot and gay marriage are real popular in the Baptist Church, aren't they? </sarcasm>
47 posted on 11/16/2011 1:21:12 PM PST by itsahoot (There was a bloodless coup in 08, and no one seemed to notice. God help us.)
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To: sanjuanbob
oops screwed up that copy and paste...

I think he wants out. He can’t stand the heat. He was a tobacco lobbyist in the 90’s so his statement here is just another smoking gun.

That notion has crossed my mind too. In a way it looks like a guy who know this isn't going anywhere, but figures he might as well have some fun while the campaign cash last...
48 posted on 11/16/2011 1:21:23 PM PST by TBBT
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To: forgotten man
Bush’s U.S. Attorneys looked the other way and allowed them to stay open and sell American product grown by Americans.

Bush sent Justice Department lawyers before the USSC to argue to uphold Wickard v Filburn in the Raisch case.

If you aren't familiar with the case, you'll need to read about it to understand just how absolutely screwed up this is coming from a man who claimed to want an "original intent" interpretation of the Constitution during his campaign.

The substantial effects doctrine, if it hasn't already, will eventually result in the federal government breaking the implied contract with the States by denying them a republican form of government. All power will rest with the national government, as an exercise in "regulating commerce".

49 posted on 11/16/2011 1:21:32 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: GraceG
I think Cain would like to see that question of the if abortion should be legal should go back to the states like it was before Roe v Wade.

Which is what would happen if, Roe is ever overturned...

50 posted on 11/16/2011 1:22:36 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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51 posted on 11/16/2011 1:22:36 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Cain needs to be careful. If he even HINTS that legalizing dope should be a States Rights Issue.. then he’s toast.

Why? What in the Constitution authorizes the federal government to ban intrastate drug matters?

52 posted on 11/16/2011 1:22:51 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: GeronL
Can the states also legalize murder, rape and child molestation?

Actually, yes. The states individually decide what constitutes murder, rape and child molestation under their own state laws. When one is charged with any of those crimes, it is state law that determines whether there is ground for prosecution.

The comparison between marijuana and rape/murder/child molestation is, with all due respect, absurd.

I am over 60 years old, and over the years I have known many productive people who have smoked pot recreationally at various times in their lives. I'm talking lawyers, doctors and successful business people. Some still do, on occasion. Threatening them with criminal sanction is an outrageous government over reach. Putting them in jail is absolutely counter productive and unjust.

Even if marijuana is to be illegal, that should be done on a state by state basis. Why do the feds need to get involved?

53 posted on 11/16/2011 1:23:45 PM PST by Maceman (Obama: As American as nasei goreng)
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To: GraceG
the feds said no death penalty they wouldn’t be able execute jack squat in texas.

You may remember that the supreme court did exactly that, until it reversed itself.

54 posted on 11/16/2011 1:24:05 PM PST by itsahoot (There was a bloodless coup in 08, and no one seemed to notice. God help us.)
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To: GeronL
"Can the states also legalize murder, rape and child molestation?

I'm not sure about the child molestation or rape, but states could, indeed, legalize murder within their sovereign state if they so desired (with certain exceptions for crimes committed against federal officials, on federal property, against ambassadors, etc). Been that way since the founding of the republic.

As it stands now, there are numerous differences among the several states in how degrees of murder are defined.

However, a federal civil rights case could be brought against a murderer - and this has sometimes happened when a state failed to convict a murderer for his crime.

The founders, unlike the current federal government, assumed the states COULD be trusted to do some things for themselves.

55 posted on 11/16/2011 1:24:05 PM PST by In Maryland ("If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?" - Mark Twain)
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To: TBBT

I’m for smaller..far smaller government, but I was commenting on Cain bringing up a drug issue that surely isn’t going to help himself.


56 posted on 11/16/2011 1:24:59 PM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: LonelyCon

I’m with him on this one, but it isn’t likely to endear him to some social conservatives.

On the other hand, he might “clarify” this tomorrow, and I’ll look silly for saying I liked something he said.


57 posted on 11/16/2011 1:25:27 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: GeronL

Stupid post of the week award.


58 posted on 11/16/2011 1:25:36 PM PST by steveo
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To: steveo

The pro-pot crows are ALL imbeciles.


59 posted on 11/16/2011 1:26:35 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL
Check out Vermont ... they slap rapists and child molesters on the wrist and send them on their way.

Most everything should be left to the states. If you don't like what your state is doing, you are free to move to a state that suits you.

Good grief ... we might actually get control of this country again and you're not in the least bit enthused.

60 posted on 11/16/2011 1:27:06 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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