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[katiedidit1]

Next GOP Debate Will Be Tonight

Published: 1:17 AM, 11/12/2011

Last updated: 1:22 AM, 11/12/2011

Source: The Greeneville Sun

The latest in the series of televised debates among the candidates for the Republican nomination for President is scheduled for tonight.

The debate is taking place at Wofford College in Spartanburg, S.C., and will focus on national security and foreign policy.

The debate is being hosted by CBS News and the National Jo urnal, and will begin at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on the CBS Television Network.

[Stat Man]

"I’ll take (Gingrich). I’ll take Bachmann. I’ll take Cain. I’ll take Santorum. The rest are RINOs."

Same four I like best.

I've watched every debate and scored every response in each debate, A, B, C, D or F. I base my grade mostly on whether or not I agree with the answer, but I sometimes penalize if the answer isn't stated well or doesn't answer the question. (Sorry, Perry)

Converting that to a 4 point GPA, my current standings thru 11 debates are: Gingrich 3.90, Bachmann 3.61, Santorum 3.60, Cain 3.58, Romney 3.12, Perry 2.96, xPawlenty was 2.66, Paul 2.40, Huntsman 2.38, Johnson 2.28.

When my state votes, I'll probably look at InTrade to see who, at that time, are the two most likely candidates to win the GOP nod, and then vote for the one of the two that I've graded higher. Most likely Romney will be one of the two... most likely the other will be someone I grade higher than Romney.

I don't see anyone catching Gingrich in my mind. I'm darn near dead even on Cain, Bachmann and Santorum, so if they stay that tight, my "intangibles" preferences have them in that "CBS" preference order. Several more debates to go, to see if anything changes.

As far as Perry goes, I definitely don't want him as our nominee, but I'm still paying attention since I'm still effectively undecided as to who I'd go for if, God forbid, Perry and Romney are the top two candidates when my state votes.

[Netizen]

Re: Foreign Policy I trust that Cain knows not to bow to the Chinese Premier, the Saudi King, and the Mayor of Tampa, FL. At this point, that's good enough for me. After three years of Obama, my expectations have been lowered considerably.

I also think Mr Cain would be opposed to US students being forced to say the pledge of allegiance to a foreign county, for any purpose. I also doubt he we agree to telling students they couldn't wear t shirts with the US flag on it for political correctness sake.

[Netizen]

That’s because they C, N, R are the front runners and have a shot. Had Bachmann and Perry not gaffed their way down in the polls, they would have been given more questions. That’s just how it is. In the earliest debates Cain didn’t get hardly any questions, but as he moved up in the polls he got more, and he earned them!

[RoosterRedux]

The black vote will not be monolithic if Cain makes it to the nomination.

In the South, there are many black evangelical churches. Cain would carry much of that bloc. As a Baptist minister, he speaks that language and it is a powerful force. Obama hasn't a clue what any of that stuff means.

[Netizen]

The sad thing with Perry is that he's so bad at it, that sometimes, he doesn't even bother to try to twist his answer... he just simply goes straight into his answer as if the questioner asked something entirely different.

Its a huge turn off, too.

As an aside. I wish one of them, ANY of them would told the moderators that the US should use the same type of interrogation methods as their enemies use. If the enemy is torturing their captives, then why should the US do anything less. I would draw the line at hanging, burning and firing squads though (at least until they went to a military court). The US should not have their hands tied while the enemy gets a free pass. jmo

[rodguy911]

Nice try ace but you obviously don't know what we do here. In case no one told you we are at war with RINOS. We have all but dried up the funding at the RNC and nowadays we pretty much let the tea party pick the candidates. Things are changing in the Republican party if you should be so kind as to take notice.

Is it perfect,hell no! Do we have every candidate we want in place yet,hardly. But give Sarah a chance. She has only begun to work. And we have only begun to feed the New Media with intel day after day week after week.

In case you don't notice FR and the New Media are a very valuable resource in the war against rionism and the commies now in power.

Currently, we are not forced to support any rino and no one here does.Including me!

Later on most will support whomever wins in Tampa. There is little choice other than that.I needn't go into detail our options have been summarized here many times.

If that means we get a rino,and that possibility exists, I encourage you to heap fuel on the huge bonfire that will be lit under his ass for at least four years.

The moment he goes squishy we will be right there to kick his ass over and over if that's what it takes.

And in case you haven't noticed its working.

So you can take your marbles go back in the corner and keep sucking your thumb or help out in the all out war on commies and rinos.It all starts here.

[Reagan69]

And he apologized for the Princess Nancy remark... why?

[txzman]

Simple. Just keep reminding yourself we’re electing a President, not a boarding school headmaster. Then remember ‘it’s only sex’.

Presidents are human beings, complete with flaws, not Demi-gods with no stains from the travails of life..

[Netizen]

Did you notice Perry hanging on Newt's words every time they shot Newt from a side camera? It reminded me almost exactly of the look on the face of a kid trying to mentally memorize the words of his smart friend who was warning him what to study for on the next test.

I've notice that he does that to almost all of the candidates in every debate. It looks like he is wishing that he could speak like that and remember all that data so easily.

[Hojczyk]

Black vote only counts in big City state...Phil..in Penn..is one that stands out...Probably Michigan....Southern and western states not really a factor...maybe in Mississippi...

[dennisw]

Scott Pelley beamed with satisfaction when he used the word “extra-judicial”. Unfortunately Newt then had to school him about how killing our enemies works in the real world and how it is perfectly legal.

Loook ma! I use the word extra-judicial! All my lib friends will be so impressed same as when Obama says unsustainable, showing what a genius he is

[wolfman23601]

Black vote will matter in Virginia and North Carolina.

[Netizen]

Definitely Michigan, no probably about it.

[Netizen]

Black vote only counts in big City state...Phil..in Penn..is one that stands out...Probably Michigan.... Southern and western states not really a factor...maybe in Mississippi...

The following data was sourced from the 2010 U.S. Census.^{[citation needed]}

Rank	City	Percentage African American	African American Population
1	Detroit, Michigan	82.7	590,226
2	Jackson, Mississippi	79.4	137,716
3	Miami Gardens, Florida	76.3	81,776
4	Birmingham, Alabama	73.4	155,791
5	Baltimore, Maryland	63.7	395,781
6	Memphis, Tennessee	63.3	409,687
7	New Orleans, Louisiana	60.2	206,871
8	Wilmington, Delaware	58	41,326
9	Montgomery, Alabama	56.6	116,524
10	Flint, Michigan	56.6	57,939
11	Savannah, Georgia	55.4	75,507
12	Augusta, Georgia	54.7	107,182
13	Shreveport, Louisiana	54.7	109,022
14	Baton Rouge, Louisiana	54.5	125,155
15	Atlanta, Georgia	54.0	226,894
16	Cleveland, Ohio	53.3	211,672
16	Portsmouth, Virginia	53.3	50,878
17	Harrisburg, Pennsylvania	52.4	25,957
18	Newark, New Jersey	52.4	145,085
19	Washington, D.C.	50.7	305,125
20	Richmond, Virginia	50.6	103,342
21	Mobile, Alabama	50.6	98,691
22	St. Louis, Missouri	49.2	157,160
23	Beaumont, Texas	47.3	55,931
24	North Charleston, South Carolina	47.2	45,964
25	Jackson, Tennessee	45.7	29,802
26	Cincinnati, Ohio	44.8	133,039
28	Inglewood, California	43.9	48,164
29	Philadelphia, Pennsylvania	43.4	661,839
30	Norfolk, Virginia	43.1	104,672
31	Dayton, Ohio	42.9	60,705
32	Suffolk, Virginia	42.7	36,120
34	Little Rock, Arkansas	42.3	81,889
35	Columbia, South Carolina	42.2	54,537
37	Fayetteville, North Carolina	41.9	84,040
38	Rochester, New York	41.7	87,897
39	Durham, North Carolina	41.0	93,517
40	Newport News, Virginia	40.7	73,514
41	Greensboro, North Carolina	40.6	109,586
42	Milwaukee, Wisconsin	40.0	237,769
43	Hartford, Connecticut	38.7	48,331
44	Buffalo, New York	38.6	100,774
45	Bronx, New York[1]	36.5	505,200
46	New Haven, Connecticut	35.4	45,938
47	Tallahassee, Florida	35.0	63,475
48	Charlotte, North Carolina	35.0	256,241
49	Chattanooga, Tennessee	34.9	58,507
50	Winston-Salem, North Carolina	34.7	79,598
51	Brooklyn, New York[1]	34.3	860,083
52	High Point, North Carolina	33.0	34,394
53	Chicago, Illinois	32.9	887,608
54	Compton, California	32.9	31,688
55	Paterson, New Jersey	31.7	46,314
56	Huntsville, Alabama	31.2	56,229
57	Jacksonville, Florida	30.7	252,421
58	Kansas City, Missouri	29.9	137,540
59	Oakland, California	28.0	109,471
60	Hawthorne, California	27.7	23,385
61	Richmond, California	26.6	27,542
62	South Bend, Indiana	26.6	26,906
63	Charleston, South Carolina	25.4	30,491

Here's one from 2000 which makes the above numbers look right.

[Caipirabob]

Aw jeez, not again!

Who's "Obowbow" bowing to here? She looks like she expects it to happen? Must be a Chinese bank executive.

[Theodore R.]

Thanks for submitting these numbers. I had no idea that Baton Rouge is “blacker” than Washington, D.C.

[Theodore R.]

East Baton Rouge Parish is Republican; it overshadows the liberal city itself, but I believe the city has pockets of Republicanism too.

[chilepup]

Again, I watched the debate...not a good one, and not exciting. Cain did well in my opinion. He answered well on Pakistan, Iran, etc. Nobody was far superior last night.

Also, this won’t change minds much as this debate went up against college football and was not very exciting.

[mylife]

Watching the recording of the debate now.
Cain is stumbling, Perry is trying to be assertive and doing pretty well.
Bachmann is doing very well.

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

Does SNLIVE ever do comedy of the democratic debates?They downright suck at bashing ‘the so called right wing.’

It is not even funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwjS9OQLos