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To: This Just In

I mention the Convention, Annual Meetings, officers, etc. because Mohler is heavily involved behind the scenes in the Convention. What he is doing in connection with the GCR is critically important for understanding where the Convention is heading and what is happening. Those things are not, for the most part, written about in BP or elsewhere. For the most part they are only known if someone is present at meetings, close to the actors, etc.

Bob Allen’s reporting is accurate. You may not like it, but it doesn’t change the fact. There is within the GCR group (which controls the Convention) a desire to change the SBC’s image with respect to the sodomite lifestyle. Mohler has taken a leading role in that, just as Richard Land has been given the task of - and is - positioning the SBC to support McCain style amnesty. To fully appreciate how rabidly the amnesty agenda is being pursued you would have had to have seen the floor “debate” on the amnesty resolution in Phoenix. Similarly, Mohler and others have been rather free with smears regarding those opposed to their attempt to “soften” the SBC on the sodomite lifestyle.

As for ad hominem comments, please review your own posts. And, yes, I become somewhat short with people whose opinions aren’t based on anything more than what people print and wishful thinking. If you were to spend a significant amount of time involved in the Convention and actually knew the people who make things happen and what they are doing, your views would assuredly be different. “Nashville” isn’t that different from Washington, D.C.

I’m sorry that you agree with Mohler. Mohler had no basis for his smear. Even on your terms, he has absolutely no empirical basis for claiming that Baptists have some sort of inordinate fear of sodomites. He was simply posturing for the purpose of intimidating laymen into accepting a less robust rejection of the sin. He and the GCR crowd think that if they can make the SBC less opposed to the culture that baptisms and membership will start increasing again. That is all that this, the amnesty push, the infiltration of the emergents, the “diversity” quotas, and the rest of the things that the new leadership is intent on forcing into the SBC are about.

I could respond to the rest of your post, but experience has shown that it wouldn’t be worthwhile. Your problem is pride and hero-worship.


69 posted on 11/13/2011 6:59:19 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000

I understood your reasons for highlighting the Convention, etc. I was seeking information, as you well know, concerning Dr. Mohler specifically.

Hero-worship? Please don’t flatter yourself. Name calling may provide you with a sense of superiority and justification because you disagree with me, but that doesn’t change the fact that you’ve displayed as much Christian charity as the Pharisees. Nice deflection.

Someone disagrees with you because you call Dr. Mohler a liar (despite the fact that you can’t produce ONE piece of evidence to substantiate your accusation), and you accuse them of hero worship? Basically you’re saying, “Dr. Mohler’s a liar despite what he writes about, and I’m telling the truth. Believe me because I’ve attended these Annual Meetings and the Convention”.

Well, until I here a response from Dr. Mohler I can either take your word for it or his, or wait and see.

I have no doubt that your allegations concerning some of the leaders are legitimate.

I have read my posts. I have read your ad hominem and condescending attacks. I guess your self-righteous indignation is justified. After all, you’ve attended the meetings.

TJI


70 posted on 11/13/2011 7:50:39 PM PST by This Just In
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