I can’t even figure out what side you take on this is either.
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I doubt that you were ever a Cain supporter or ever would be.
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Many people forgot about the notion of 1-2 yrs campaign is to weed out
candidates, it is like speed dating, you try to hook up
with one while trying to see if others could do the jobs
as well.
A few weeks ago, Cain was the man, I gave 8.5 score,
then I downgraded him after listening to his response
on abortion, then a week later another downgrade when
he said he would negotiate with terrorism, and finally
downgrade him to 0.0 after seeing his handling of the
sexual issue.
Today, he is -5.0 on my 1-10 scale.
Why? Because after watching the 2 pressers, I believe
what Bialek said about: you want a job, right?
and on Cain’s presser, it shows him exactly the opposite
of what I thought who he really was.
Character and integrity are important.
These contribute to decisions making and how a Pres
would deal with situations.
Regarding sexual issue, lets eliminate Bialek from
the equation! Cain said on the debate last night about
people judging without knowing the facts! hahaha.. well,
he was given his chance, on his presser when asked
about Karen K. harassment case, he said it was baseless
and to the effect something about his cimment about her
height is about the same as his wife’s.
What are we? children? LOL.
Cain was lying throuhg the teeth at the presser.
If what he did to Karen K. was insignificant, he could
simply just say at the presser: Well, NRA has waived
the non-disclosure clause, I ask now that Ms.K comes
forward with all the documents and let public judge.
Thats the true test, and Cain failed.
The tsunami is coming soon.. trust me.
I’m not trusting you until you have a more cogent argument that doesn’t sound like it’s coming from Democratic Underground. If you notice the majority of people around here who argue against Cain make comments that actually make sense. There’s not an ounce of logic in your arguments and it’s all based on “feeling”.
Why is his comment about her being the same height as his wife not valid? It’s actually what he was asked about when the NRA was investigating. Since they found her charges without merit, they obviously had issues with her story as well. Her lawyer didn’t even have a strong enough case to take her complaint to the EEOC, the board charged with investigating sexual harassment claims. The fact that she did something similar at the next job she had, that should be considered when assessing her credibility.
You have to do better than “Cain was lying through his teeth”. Why would his not stating the obvious (the fact that she’d been released from her non disclosure agreement had been in the news for a few days) be evidence of his lying. His press conference was to state HIS case. That’s what’s required of him. It’s the women’s (or at the very least their lawyer’s) responsibility to tell their side. With no charges of harassment in the agreement she signed with her lawyer and an investigation where her complaint was found without merit, it’s a he said, she said situation.
Why waste his press conference saying what everyone already knew? She’s been free for a while now and still won’t address her charges. If it were that big of a deal and she thought it mattered to his viability as a candidate why hasn’t she spoken out about what happened? Sexual harassment charges can be made for just about anything a woman wants, from a gesture to “hey baby, you want that promotion you’ll have to prove it to me”. Clearly the first could be completely misinterpreted (as could possibly be the case here since it was dismissed without merit). Even her lawyer who is speaking out on her behalf only says “he’s seen them and it is sexual harassment.” I hardly expect him to say anything different.
Still, you’re saying he was lying through his teeth so I want you to show me why you think that. Don’t give me the lame argument about him not mentioning she was free from her agreement because that’s not evidence. Everyone knows she was free to talk. Her lawyer is free to talk on her behalf. Ironically, his language is a little suspect as well. If you listen to his comments he says he’s READ her statement and it definitely was harassment. He didn’t say I took her case because I believed her and still do (or anything to indicate he was actually there). If you remember, the case was so insignificant HE didn’t even remember it, had no file on it and had to go to the client to find out the details.
If you honestly believe Cain is pro choice and he’d negotiate with terrorists you haven’t been listening. Many prominent people in the pro life movement have come forward attesting to his pro life credentials. If you listen to that interview, he was asked whether a girl who was raped should have to RAISE the child of her rapist. He said that was mixing apples and oranges (i.e. just because you choose life doesn’t mean you can’t choose adoption instead of raising that child and that would be a family decision).