Posted on 11/09/2011 7:30:27 PM PST by Colofornian
Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier (SPAN-yer) amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.
The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.
But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.
One key question has been why Paterno and other top school officials didn't go to police in 2002 after being told a graduate assistant saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in a school shower...
(Excerpt) Read more at newser.com ...
“One guy, nine years ago, did something bad”
Oh hell. And you’re a teacher?? Just WTH!
Advocacy for Due Process is Ethically-challenged? The Left will looooove using you in the coming years.
We can't dismiss the possibility that he and Paterno knew the law and adjusted the story to make sure Paterno was not legally culpable. They had years to decide what each would say or not say.
We'll never know for certain what was or was not said, and anyone who claims they know for certain is just telling the story they want to tell.
Sandusky, and his enablers have just f’d with a lot of people’s livelihoods that are going to really suffer in the absence of PSU football, which most likely now is going to occur, for a period of one, maybe two years. The impact on the local economy is going to be catastrophic, and they may never recover.
Couldn’t help but notice your screen name. Does it have anything to do with John Drake’s prequel (Flint and Silver) to Treasure Island? I’m reading it now and enjoying it, although it’s hard not to imagine Long John Silver with Robert Newton’s face.
Joe had his due process. He was fired. Happy?
My primary purpose in posting that fact was to temper the hyper-reactions against the many people who were NOT raping children in those showers. Get the point?
No, but union members think it should be when it is some of their own.
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Apparently some rioting going on at at Penn State. A whole bunch of idiots more concerned about sports than about a serial homosexual predator pedophile and a whole bunch of important people who covered up for him. Absolutely beyond disgusting. I only read one page of the thread so far, but I'm really surprised at so many comments making light of the molesting - 8 boys that are known about - and a vile predator who took advantage of boys from broken homes, probably had many more than 8 victims. Everyone single person who know of the rapes of children deserves prison. And the rapist deserves execution.
I just read the first page of thread, just pinging it out now. I’m surprise so many comments more concerned about sports, reputations, and the like. Very surprised.
Unchecked sin carries consequences.
In post #65, I mentioned "corporate guilt." Jesus talked about this at least time when He said, "woe to you Korazin..." ... and He talked how bad it would be for certain communities because of their rejection of Him.
Well, that also applies to the residue of social sin. The Israelites understood this...read Deuteronomy 21:1-9:
1 If someone is found slain, lying in a field in the land the LORD your God is giving you to possess, and it is not known who the killer was, 2 your elders and judges shall go out and measure the distance from the body to the neighboring towns. 3 Then the elders of the town nearest the body shall take a heifer that has never been worked and has never worn a yoke 4 and lead it down to a valley that has not been plowed or planted and where there is a flowing stream. There in the valley they are to break the heifer’s neck. 5 The Levitical priests shall step forward, for the LORD your God has chosen them to minister and to pronounce blessings in the name of the LORD and to decide all cases of dispute and assault. 6 Then all the elders of the town nearest the body shall wash their hands over the heifer whose neck was broken in the valley, 7 and they shall declare: “Our hands did not shed this blood, nor did our eyes see it done. 8 Accept this atonement for your people Israel, whom you have redeemed, LORD, and do not hold your people guilty of the blood of an innocent person.” Then the bloodshed will be atoned for, 9 and you will have purged from yourselves the guilt of shedding innocent blood, since you have done what is right in the eyes of the LORD.
IOW...even tho the townspeople contributed NOTHING to that man's death; a blood atonement -- the shedding of innocent blood -- still had to be done because the townspeople believed that bloodguilt would fall upon them.
They recognized that justice had to be done.
In State College's case, the "blood" we are talking about has dripped from the anus of too many boys. No one "owned" responsibility for attempting to address this in the eyes of God. Rapeguilt rests upon the community of State College.
Instead of overfocusing on a coach -- or their identity with a failed governmental educational system -- they need to repent of inaction and focus on the victims.
Thank you. I was not searching very effectively. ‘Appreciate it.
You would have PSU do nothing and allow this to fester for the year or more it will take to bring people to trial.
Have you no shame?
When Sandusky retired from PSU he was only 55. He had been widely believed to be the heir apparent. He left for a reason.
Total speculation on my part but it seems as if the meeting at Paterno’s home (after the grad student’s report) was to arrange a cover up.
That's a whole other issue. (Contracts, arbitration, etc).
In a coaches case, usually you're fired, and you get bought out of your contract as well.
Some folks almost have Penn State and Ohio State in a competition for Urban Meyer. But has he given any indication that he is ready to get back into coaching?
Often with the demise (firing) of a head coach goes his entire staff.
So it may have been a mere practical matter. Cut off the head; the rest of the body will die.
Besides, they are still blue-blooded at heart. Got to keep the head of recruiting (McQueary) on board til it's no longer publicly feasible to do that. Recruits are the lifeblood of any program.
Well, our Constitution preferred that Due Process take place in a court of law... But theoolice have not even had time to break out their pencils yet on any PSU admins. Todays events center around PSU and theirr actions against their employees, which is not exactly what i was talking about... But What PSU did today was far more about CYA than Scholastic Justice. Again, why did they mete out such punishments (which are far beyond what most first-timers get for failure to report), and so quickly, especially when the events reported happened so long ago? Media pressure is driving these events, not common sense (as clearly evidenced icon this thread), and that should make most thoughtful and rational people pause for a moment. I’m trying, but it doesn’t seem to be taking hold here..
SMU, (Southern Methodist University), back in the ‘80s had a solid football program.
They were caught paying players around 750 a month to play ball, and a whole slew of other recruiting violations, pay to play, you name it, SMU was in on it.
The program was suspended for all their home games for a year. All their players were given scholarships to play elsewhere. Their entire staff was fired and let go, and they were prevented for two years from offering scholarships to players.
SMU chose not to field a team for the away games, and chose not to field a team the next year because they could not be competitive. The program, only 3 years afterwards was able to field a team filled with freshmen, and two years after that, and 5 years after the ban, they were able to have all scholarship players again.
The entire conference went down and SMU, even downgraded only just 2 years ago they were finally eligible for a bowl game, and lost.
As the others have mentioned, this would be a lenient option for PSU. So we shall see what happens. This scandal is way, way beyond what was going on at SMU.
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