Posted on 11/08/2011 11:40:43 AM PST by bjorn14
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Joe Paterno’s tenure as coach of the Penn State football team will soon be over, perhaps within days or weeks, in the wake of a sex-abuse scandal that has implicated university officials, according to two people briefed on conversations among the university’s top officials.
The board of trustees has yet to determine the precise timing of Paterno’s exit, but it is clear that the man who has more victories than any other coach at college football’s top level and who made Penn State a prestigious national brand will not survive to coach another season. Discussions about how to manage his departure have begun, according to the two people.
Paterno was to have held a news conference Tuesday but the university canceled it less than an hour before it was scheduled to start.
At age 84 and with 46 seasons as the Penn State head coach behind him, Paterno’s extraordinary run of success — one that produced tens of millions of dollars for the school and two national championships, and that established him as one of the nation’s most revered leaders, will end with a stunning and humiliating final chapter.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
After reading this, you will have a very hard time defending any of the gay pedophilic sex enablers at Penn State.
If I was the person responsible for initiating the investigation, I would have to investigate.
If I was the person, not responsible for initiating the investigation, then I would inform the one who is supposed to.
How about you?
If I was the "boss" btw -- and Paterno was not in this case -- this would very likely mean not investigating it myself but directing the matter to HR or security, who presumably would have the training to determine whether state law enforcement should be involved.
I'm reading the Grand Jury report now. It appears Paterno did follow up with a conversation with the head of the University Police (Schultz), and it was Schultz and Curley who blew the whole thing off.
If one is a witness, obviously, one then should call the police first, which in this case very well might have meant that campus police would have been first on the scene.
Time for the seven figure salaried Spanier to fall.
IMO, his wife knew or suspected. According to GJ testimony, at her husband's request, she called Victim # 7 on the phone several times before Sandusky was arrested, trying to get the boy not to testify or something or other. ... What a distasteful spectacle.
Picture this: this year, an all-state high school offensive tackle gets recruited by OSU, Michigan and Penn State. Where's he gonna go? Where might his dad suggest?
What was the NCAA violation?
Don’t punish a team of young men who had NOTHING to do with this.
FIRE and PROSECUTE the criminals involved in covering up the rape of children.
In the showers, not much...
“If I was the “boss” btw — and Paterno was not in this case.”
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Why the quotation marks? The terminology is wholly apropos.
So, Paterno is not at all responsible for what happens under the auspices of the Penn State football program?
REGARDLESS, of the inactions of others on the Penn State Campus, a responsible man would have demanded details concerning this incident, and certainly not allowed this criminal pervert back in the locker room.
Two months ago, state police at Rockview in Centre County began calling witnesses to a May 1998 report by Penn State University police detailing an earlier allegation of inappropriate contact against Sandusky by another boy.
According to several sources, that boy, who was 12 at the time, alleged he and Sandusky were showering in the football building on Penn State’s campus when the incident took place. The boy’s mother told The Patriot-News she was specifically instructed by state police at Rockview not to speak with a reporter. Her name is being withheld by The Patriot-News to protect the identity of her son.
No charges were ever filed against Sandusky.
According to sources close to the investigation, the boy told police in 1998 that Sandusky had showered with him in a locker room of the Lasch Building — home to the football program — during a tour. The boy claimed Sandusky washed his body during the shower, sources said.
As part of the May 1998 investigation, police had the boy’s mother call Sandusky to her State College home and confront him while they hid in another room, according to sources. Another boy, now an adult in the armed forces, was named as a witness in the 1998 Penn State police report and has been contacted by state police, his wife confirmed.
When reached by phone, his mother said she took her son to Penn State police for questioning in 1998 but didn’t listen to the interview. She said she never asked her son what happened.
Retired Penn State Police Officer Ron Schreffler handled the 1998 case. When approached recently, Schreffler said he couldn’t comment and asked a reporter, “How did you see that report?”
http://www.slowstates.com/blog/jerry-sandusky-investigation/
“Guess that old fart never really understood what the meant in all of his 46 years as coach.”
I see an argument for TERM LIMITS in this sad tale. Like Congressmen and Senators “for life”, it shows what happens when someone occupies a seat of power too long.
Joe Paterno thought by his mere presence and good intentions that nothing bad could happen at PSU. Who doubts that when Paterno told Sandusky that he would NEVER be the Head Coach at PSU, he KNEW that Sandusky was a child molester. I think it was Joe’s way of administering punishment.
What happens when Sandusky takes the stand at trial. He will drag as many folks down with him as possible. We will find out who knew “what” and “when”. The magnitude of this scandal will be scar PSU forever.
Sandusky was not part of the football program when this happened and it appears he had a right to access the training facilities as part of his retirement. This would not have been negotiated by Paterno.
REGARDLESS, of the inactions of others on the Penn State Campus, a responsible man would have demanded details concerning this incident,
Schultz and Curley told the Grand Jury that it was all just horseplay, which is why they are facing charges. Why do you think they would have told Paterno any different?
The link was already on this thread.
The timeline is pretty damning for Paterno.
In 1998 while the guy was directly under Paterno he was caught in the showers with a minor male from the troubled youth program the PennStatePedofile ran.
This incident was apparently enough to remove him from his job, but not enough to remove him from campus.
This led to the 2002 incident of anal sex with a 10 year old in the Penn State shower.
After two credible reports of this guy in the shower with minor males - NOTHING until almost 10 years later.
Seems the facts are pretty damning and Joe Paterno was driving the bus all that time. Time for him to be thrown under it by any group of decent people. We will see if Penn State is a group of decent people or the kind who would continue to turn a blind eye to pedophilia.
I hadn’t heard about the 1998 incident. Where did that come out?
Why Shultz and Curley were charged was because they reported this incident of child rape as “horseplay”, after being told by the graduate student that it was obviously anal sex.
Sandusky WAS a part of the PennStatePedo program during the 1998 incident. This led, no doubt, to his “retirement” - where he was still running a program for troubled young men and still had access to PennStatePedo facilities. This led to the 2002 incident that was written off as “horseplay” by the two.
But there was no need for either man to tell Paterno anything - as he had already received a first hand account from the graduate student - Paterno was the first official employed by PennStatePedo that was told of the SECOND incident.
Who knows how many knew about the FIRST incident of this guy being caught in the shower with a male child.
I couldn't find that in the Grand Jury Report.
Victim 6 told his mom that he had showered with Sandusky which started a police investigation but he was not "caught in the showers".
I used to have the utmost admiration for Paterno.
But he should have retired years ago.
When it became obvious he was clinging on to get the ‘most wins’ title my admiration took a hit.
If he was sure of this event he should have taken whatever required to get legal action .
On top of that the university allows Sandusky access to their facilities??
1) If Sandusky was not part of the football program, why did the Grad Student feel the need to report the incident to Paterno?
2) I don’t think Paterno needed to be “told” anything.
It is clear he had a very good idea that this was much more than “horseplay”, and of a serial nature.
“Who knows how many knew about the FIRST incident of this guy being caught in the shower with a male child.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2804295/posts?page=168#168
Reported to the cops in ‘98 and covered up. Read the grand jury report (it’s not that long) linked above. Joe Pa knew waaaaaaay back then. Joe Pa knew EVERYTHING that went on that had to do with his football team.
The first incident he was “caught” in that the child reported it to his mother.
When I was a child sneaking out after bedtime with a friend - and later he told his mother - and his mother told my dad - I considered myself “caught” sneaking out after bedtime.
But that is just semantics.
PennStatePedo football had a record of TWO incidents of this guy in showers with male children. One in 1998 before his removal, and another one in 2002. By the time 2011 rolled around the guy shouldn't have still been hanging around PennState. If there were decent people associated with PennStatePedo football the guy would have been in jail for most of the last decade.
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