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Herman Cain~Newt Gingrich in Lincoln/Douglas-type Debate C-SPAN Sat.11- 5: 8 PM EDT - LIVE THREAD
C-Span ^ | 11-5-2011

Posted on 11/05/2011 3:16:26 PM PDT by blueyon

Republican 2012 presidential candidates Republican 2012 presidential candidates Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich met in a Lincoln-Douglas style debate on current economic and social issues facing the U.S.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; caingingrichdebate; cainmachine; caintrain; debate; frontrunner; gingrich; gop; newtcannotbenominee; vote4newtsawin4obama
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To: txhurl
"I just don’t see Newt and Herman doing to zero what Perry plans to."

Did Perry plan to perform so badly in the debates?

Because the evidence strongly suggests that when it comes to running for POTUS, Perry has a serious inability to carry out his plans.

1,701 posted on 11/06/2011 7:47:12 AM PST by Stat Man
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To: blueyon

Well here we are - reviewing an intellectual and mature debate of consequence and your thread has, as could be predicted, deteriorated into a Norm & Charles debacle.

Wasting bandwidth on a playground scuffle. So immature - I’m going shopping.


1,702 posted on 11/06/2011 8:00:19 AM PST by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature. Newt - knowledge is power.)
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To: faucetman

Radio Talk Show Host, “The Herman Cain Show”, News Talk 750 WSB – Atlanta, Monday - Friday, 7pm-10pm EST

FOX News Business Commentator and Columnist with World Net Daily

Chief Executive Officer and President of THE New Voice, Inc., a business consulting company, and Head Coach of HITM

At a nationally televised Presidential Town Hall Meeting on Health Care Reform (1994), challenged President Bill Clinton’s health care proposal when he said, “Mr. President, with all due respect, your calculations are incorrect…”

Former Chairman of Godfather’s Pizza, Inc. after serving as CEO and President for ten years, 1986 - 1996. In 1988 he bought the company from The Pillsbury Company

Past Chairman and Member of the Board of Directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City

Former Chairman and President of the Tax Leadership Council, the public educational component of Americans for Fair Taxation

Past Chairman of the Board of the National Restaurant Association (1994-1995), and former full time CEO and President of the Association (1996-1999)

Member of The National Commission on Economic Growth and Tax Reform (1995), chaired by former Republican Vice-presidential candidate, Jack Kemp

Serves on the Boards of Directors of AGCO, Inc., Georgia Chamber of Commerce, Hallmark Cards Inc., Whirlpool, Inc., and Morehouse College, Atlanta, Georgia

Recipient of eight Honorary Doctorate Degrees from Morehouse College, New York City Technical College; Suffolk University, Johnson & Wales University, Creighton University, Purdue University, Tougaloo College and the University of Nebraska

Recipient of a 1996 Horatio Alger Award and the 1991 International Foodservice Manufacturers Association’s Operator of the Year/Gold Plate Award

Graduated from Morehouse College with a B.S. in Mathematics in 1967. Earned his Master’s Degree in Computer Science from Purdue University in 1971

Author of five books, Leadership Is Common Sense (1997), Speak As A Leader (1999), CEO of SELF (October, 2001), and They Think You’re Stupid (May, 2005), This is Herman Cain! (2011)

A native and current resident of Atlanta, Georgia. Married for over 40 years with two adult children and three grandchildren.


1,703 posted on 11/06/2011 8:09:01 AM PST by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: blueyon
Thanks for the link to the debate. Great format and discussion. On the social security issue, we already have individual retirement accounts with 401k and IRA programs, which were hardly mentioned in the discussions. Why not allow workers to divert their SS deductions to 401k and/or IRA accounts?
1,704 posted on 11/06/2011 8:11:39 AM PST by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: justsaynomore

Not included above- he also worked 6 years as a mathmetician for the Dept of the Navy (in missile ballistics)


1,705 posted on 11/06/2011 8:12:52 AM PST by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: native texan

Last I heard K. Baily Hutchinson is Texan. She doesn’t like Perry either. As I said before, Perry would not even carry his own state.

Perry is toast. That is a good thing for conservatives.


1,706 posted on 11/06/2011 8:33:21 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: faucetman

Actually this plan was a composite with economic advisers. Reagan had economic advisers. Surprise— every word was not his.


1,707 posted on 11/06/2011 8:34:20 AM PST by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Was this also so Perry could find the chosen ones to give them Texas taxpayer-funded tuition money? Snide but, just wondering....


1,708 posted on 11/06/2011 8:41:34 AM PST by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: native texan

I’m not wasting my time on Perry. His moment in the sun has come and gone. Even Kay Bailey Hutchinson says he is a poor choice.

In any event, why would I vote for a RINO. And why in hell would I vote for a guy carrying so much baggage? I have at least three candidates I believe in and who do not have baggage.


1,709 posted on 11/06/2011 8:43:24 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: RKBA Democrat

The same thing struck me in the last debate as well. As everyone was piling on Herman for the 999 plan, Newt actually defended it. Then, last night, he kept calling herman “his good friend”, he kept complimenting him and he covered for him as well. It just seemed to me that we were watching the ticket unfold.


1,710 posted on 11/06/2011 8:43:53 AM PST by chilepup
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To: hocndoc

Perry will say anything to be elected to anything. It comes down to his credibility. He has none as far as I’m concerned.

He would not even carry his own state. Kay Baily Hitchinson just disendorsed him for crying out loud. Don’t any of those things resonate with you?


1,711 posted on 11/06/2011 8:47:52 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: mylife
A Paul fan eh?

No, but he's got the longevity you seem to treasure in a candidate. I was just wondering why you don't support him, if that's what's most important to you.

1,712 posted on 11/06/2011 8:48:13 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I let you have your last immature, childish rant in the other thread.

It was big of you to let me post, Charles. Thanks so much.

1,713 posted on 11/06/2011 8:50:07 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Windflier

I don’t support Paul because he is an isolationist loon.


1,714 posted on 11/06/2011 8:55:56 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dools0007world

Perry whipped Kay Bailey in the last election by 20%


1,715 posted on 11/06/2011 8:58:07 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ExSoldier
Good morning..just skimming the debate thread, and saw your post. As a Gator fan, I'm neutral, but it was a trmendous game. I definitely think they should play again in the championship game.

What surprised me, reading the stories, is how little attention is paid to the INT at the end of the game. It could have just as well been ruled a completion. Indeed..it was a joint catch..both had control until they hit the ground, after which the LSU defender pulled the ball away. BUT ONCE THEY HIT THE GROUND THE BALL SHOULD BE DEAD, and belong to Bama. I'm no expert on the rules, but always thought that in that case, the presumption..the completion, goes to the offense.

Basically, the game was decided on that call..and that alone merits a rematch.

If LSU does end up playing either Stanford, OSU, or BOise State, the final score will be about 50-0..LSU..no matter who the opponent is.

LSU is already looking past the Razorbacks, and that could cost them..

No matter what happens, it's another national title for the SEC....and probably 4-5 teams in the final top 15 poll.

I do think there's at least a 50/50 chance that things break for a rematch. I look for Sooners to beat Cowboys, and Oregon to beat Stanford. Boise State runs the table, but their strength of schedule ( though no fault of theirs) is SOOOOOOO bad it drops them down...and I think a lot of the voters in the non-computer part of the BCS polls will vote Tide #2..

1,716 posted on 11/06/2011 9:00:04 AM PST by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: Norm Lenhart
You will not likely get a serious or direct answer. Charles has a post history filled with thousand+ word rants that not so cleverly duck the issues and questions at hand.

No kidding. I had to bail last night when it just got too late to post any longer. I open my pings this morning and what do I see? Reams of words from Charles.

It's looks like a mountain of government documents. That's not communicating. That's bludgeoning with text. There's no way I'm even going to read it all. I guess I'll never know whether he made a cogent point or not.

1,717 posted on 11/06/2011 9:02:51 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Lakeshark

Heh....thanks for the funny. Went well with my morning coffee ;-)


1,718 posted on 11/06/2011 9:07:01 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mylife
I don’t support Paul because he is an isolationist loon.

But he's been in government for so long. So he's got a few quirks. Surely you can forgive him for that.

1,719 posted on 11/06/2011 9:12:01 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Exactly or Cain could have done what any good liberal would do, plough even more non existent money into the company hoping to keep all them branches running the risk of sinking the whole ship.....

if he turned millions of dollars loss making company into a millions of dollars profit making company there is no other case to answer on the issue....

Any good businessman will tell you sometimes cuts need to be made for the stability of the company.......be it the small local shop or a multi national company......


1,720 posted on 11/06/2011 9:15:07 AM PST by UKrepublican
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