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MSNBC Host: Why Should People Have Guns When We Have Cops
Townhall.com ^ | November 1, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 11/01/2011 3:27:53 PM PDT by Kaslin

As I always say, you can be a victim, or not, the choice is yours.

Yesterday, Spartanburg County Sheriff Chuck Wright of South Carolina told women during a news conference to obtain their concealed weapons permit in order to better protect themselves from rapists and criminals in the area.

The sheriff of Spartanburg County, S.C., turned a news conference about an attempted rape in his community into an extended rant Monday in which he slammed a criminal justice system preferred by "liberals" for failing to keep the repeat-offender suspect behind bars -- and implored the women in his community to pack heat for self-protection.


"I want you to get a concealed weapons permit," Sheriff Chuck Wright said at the Monday news conference, as reported by TV station WYFF. "Don't get Mace. Get a firearm."

The sheriff alleged that a 46-year-old man named Walter Lance abducted a woman while she was walking her dog Sunday afternoon and attempted to rape her.

Lance was arrested and charged with kidnapping, first-degree criminal sexual conduct and grand larceny, the Spartanburg Herald-Journal reported.


In the news conference, Wright said Lance had been convicted of 20 crimes dating back to 1983, including disorderly conduct, domestic violence, assault and battery with intent to kill, and resisting arrest, among others.

"Now if anybody sitting in this room had been charged with any of that stuff, they'd probably be finding a tall oak tree and a short rope for us," Wright said.

"I can tell you that our form of justice is not making it," he stated. "This fellow that has been charged numerous times for crimes against women and crime in society ... he's been in jail more times than I have, and I'm the dad-blame [guy] over the jail over there. And he seems to get out quicker than I can get out. And I am aggravated.


"I've had liberals call me and tell me, 'The chain gang is not going to work.' Well, let me inform you that your form of justice isn't working either."

Wright suggested that the women of Spartanburg carry their weapons in fanny packs. "You can conceal a small pistol in them," he said. "They got one called The Judge that shoots a .45 or a .410 shell. You ain't got to be accurate. You just have to get close."

This Sheriff should be applauded and is absolutely correct in his suggestions. Yes, law enforcement is an important piece of society however, ultimately it is up to the individual to protect themselves, in particular women because they are biologically weaker than men and easy targets for assault.

However, unsurprisingly MSNBC fill-in host Craig Melvin seems to be more worried about the fate of potential rapists, rather than the safety of women. During an interview with Sheriff Wright today, Melvin suggested law enforcement should be the only necessary protection for women and society against criminals. At the beginning of the interview, Melvin asked:

Sheriff, if law enforcement is charged with protecting the public, then, then, then why should that not be sufficient? Why should folks have to go out and get guns and arm themselves if we've got cops?

To which Wright responded: 

We can't be everywhere, and we are a fool if we tell everybody that we can take care of all of our problems.

Later in the interview Melvin has the audacity to suggest a woman defending herself against rape is "implying guilt rather than innocence."

Melvin: If women are shooting potential attackers, aren't they presuming guilt before innocence? What if a woman kills an attacker? Isn't that opening another whole legal can of worms?

Sheriff Wright: Well, it's easy to fix that. Just don't attack a woman.... I know that this is controversial, but I do believe that people who believe in the Second Amendment and believe that they should arm themselves have a right to do so, as long as they're trained properly.


Melvin was also shocked to learn the Sheriff suggested women use a .45 calibur handgun to get the job done. What did he think the Sheriff was going to suggest? Spitballs? A rubber band gun?

Here is a reality check for Craig Melvin: The most violent cities in the country, Chicago, Detroit, New York City, all have extremely strict gun laws. Being armed is a deterrent to criminals, plain and simple. If criminals know there is potential to get shot, they think twice about attacking you. Women have every right to protect themselves against rape, murder or other violent crimes by carrying a concealed weapon and yes, if they are attacked, have the right (in most states anyway) to shoot their attacker in self-defense. It is obvious Melvin has never done a single ounce of research about concealed carry. Women can't wait around to find out the intentions of an attacker; women who do that end up dead in a ditch somewhere. His implied sympathy for rapists and his idea that women shouldn't defend themselves because they might "kill their attacker," is pathetic.

As the saying goes: When seconds count, the cops are minutes away.

H/T Media Research Center


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To: Secret Agent Man

RE#13
I like your style.


101 posted on 11/01/2011 6:25:33 PM PDT by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: Kaslin
No worries, little Melvin:

When they arrive, the cops will draw a nice picture of you (and/or your [former] loved one) and put up tape so that nobody steps on it...

102 posted on 11/01/2011 6:26:15 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Kaslin

103 posted on 11/01/2011 6:31:38 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: All

Dear MSNBC,

Where I grew up, you could get a pizza faster than a cop.

Cops come after the fact to pick up the pieces....mostly the victims.


104 posted on 11/01/2011 6:34:09 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: DanMiller

My advice is if all you have is a BB gun, aim for the head, preferably the eyes, and may the Lord bless you.


105 posted on 11/01/2011 6:34:44 PM PDT by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: Kaslin

When seconds count, police are only minutes away.


106 posted on 11/01/2011 6:40:29 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Turbopilot
I like your graphic. Mind if I steal it?

Why not? I did!

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107 posted on 11/01/2011 6:51:19 PM PDT by Iron Munro ('We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them.' -- Mitt Romney)
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To: Kaslin
Because a cop is too heavy to carry.......

Oh, yeah.... and a cop is not Constitutionally guaranteed.

108 posted on 11/01/2011 6:53:47 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Kaslin
Because the same Constitution of the Unites States which allows any reporter or members of the press to make an ass of themselves in Amendment Number One also allows me the right too Keep & Bear Arms in Amendment Number Two.

However the right and the duty too keep my family and keep myself as well from harm from the deeds of others is a GOD granted right to mankind and sacred duty.

109 posted on 11/01/2011 6:55:15 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: tractorman
My advice is if all you have is a BB gun, aim for the head, preferably the eyes, and may the Lord bless you

A Crossman Air Rifle especially a Model 2100 will do it. I used mine to kill nuiance possums late at night because I didn't want to discharge a firearm that late at night. If it will kill a possum it will kill a human.

110 posted on 11/01/2011 7:03:08 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Venturer

I lived in a place like that, too.
If you saw one deputy car, you saw eight, zooming by together like they had all posse-ed up at the interstate before venturing into our deep woods full of lion and tiger and bear poachers (and ginseng, and lady-slipper, and ...).
They will not venture there alone to this day, that I know of.
I myself got out of an infraction or two based upon my address and my promise not to do it again. We just weren’t considered civilized enough to reform too much, I suppose.


111 posted on 11/01/2011 7:49:39 PM PDT by Apogee
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To: Kaslin

I would like to as that MSLSD/PMSNBC reporter to please tell me why there are no crimes ever committed at a Gun Show. They have plenty of bullets and weapons there but not one shred of evidence that crimes are committed.


112 posted on 11/01/2011 8:27:39 PM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Cain is the Harriet Tubman of our time leading blacks off the Democratic plantation to freedom)
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To: Kaslin

Years ago I was watching a movie in my room at night. I heard some odd noises and looked out the window to see a drunk person, who I knew but was not a friend of, trying to get into some windows with a knife in his hand.

I set my firearm on my bed and called 911. I knew and didn’t like the person, but calling the police to take care of it was a much better idea for many reasons.

Luckily he was drunk and couldn’t figure out how to break into a home and the police showed up and took him away. That would be 30 MINUTES after I called them and their main station was 9 BLOCKS AWAY!

If it wasn’t some drunk and was someone that knew what they were doing, my firearms would of saved the lives of myself and my girlfriend.


113 posted on 11/01/2011 8:39:24 PM PDT by digital-olive
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To: Howie66

Dittos that. LOL

There was a local liberal talkshow fellow here that ripped the idea of CCW up one side and down the other. (As he did most any right-side values, viewpoints, etc.) He was so frustrating that the best way to vent was fire off emails refuting his points. Eventually, I refused to listen to the show anymore, figuring he was a lost cause.

One day, my brother called, told me I missed it. He caught only enough to hear this guy apologize for all that he slung about CCW. Had one heck of a change of mind and heart. We have NO idea what happened to him to take such a 180. He didn’t change on anything else, though, and was later let go for being over-the-top obnoxious. But I would dearly love to know what had happened to change his view about CCW.


114 posted on 11/01/2011 8:45:17 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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“Why should people have guns when we have cops?”

Jeez, buy that logic, why should I have a fire extinguisher in my kitchen when the town has a fire department?

Too bad stupidity can't be turned into electricity; it's plentiful, abundant, and renewable.

115 posted on 11/01/2011 9:38:42 PM PDT by P H Lewis (One of the fundamentals of democracy is knowing where to place your machine gun. - Foggy)
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To: P H Lewis
Attention Mr. Craig Melvin: let's have a reality check, shall we?

One, the victim is always FIRST at the scene of the crime and it is unlikely that any “innocent” person will be shot.

Two, deadly force is a last resort for the victim, but denying it to the victim IS a crime more heinous than that of the assailant.

Three, you carry a gun because it's too exhausting to carry a cop everywhere you go.

Four, the victim of the crime is the only party on the planet that can issue the assailant with an unassailable death sentence that no cop, lawyer, judge, or parole board can rescind.

Five, you are entitled to be a victim of a violent assault or murder at any time Mr Melvin, but you have no right to say that I must surrender my life so you can feel superior and noble in your ignorance.

116 posted on 11/01/2011 10:19:59 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: Ladysmith

He had an epiphany?

Cool!


117 posted on 11/02/2011 4:21:50 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: Kaslin
MSNBC Host: Why Should People Have Guns When We Have Cops
Maybe for the similar reason we mostly all have Fire Extinguishers in our houses when we also have Fire Departments, ya dimwit. (I have three. Two in the house, one in garage)

Nobody (no sane person) intends on burning their house down. It's 'just in case' something happens. Ditto for a gun having guns, jackass.

118 posted on 11/02/2011 4:31:28 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Kaslin

Hmmm. Good question. Why should the American colonists have had guns when those nice British soldiers had more than enough guns to “protect” everyone? Stupid questions beget stupid answers.


119 posted on 11/02/2011 4:32:56 AM PDT by Oceander (If Romney is the GOP nominee, then Obama wins in 2012, either directly or by proxy)
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To: Kaslin

The second amendment has nothing to do with crime. Do these people understand anything beyond the scope of the cubicle in which they spend their life’s. The second amendment had to do with protecting the citizenry against the government.


120 posted on 11/02/2011 5:58:49 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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