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1 posted on 10/31/2011 8:00:56 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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I was only off by couple billion years ago when this albatross arose from the sea of debt looking for a new perch.

What a High-Speed Rail Job to HeLL.


2 posted on 10/31/2011 8:02:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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This is going to make good the losses of all the Democrat politicians who had their campaign money ripped off by that mutant Kinde Durkee. Now all they have to do is go to the nearest BofA and get a loan against the kickbacks they’ll get from the unions and suppliers for this project.

Ain’t life grand?


3 posted on 10/31/2011 8:06:36 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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...the nation's most ambitious state rail project could cost nearly $100 billion in inflation-adjusted funding over a 20-year construction period but also would be profitable even at the lowest ridership estimates and would not require public operating subsidies...

Does anybody really believe this?

Anybody? Save Willie Green, of course...

4 posted on 10/31/2011 8:07:20 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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” profitable even at the lowest ridership estimates and would not require public operating subsidies,....”

You have to read that closely. No “operating subsidies” required, (so they say). However, there’s no mention of ever actually paying off the capital grant. If you gave me a free railway, I might be able to operate it “profitably”. Just don’t expect to get your $100 billion back ... ever.


5 posted on 10/31/2011 8:07:34 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Democrats flunk basic accounting. This project generates payola especially for the labor cartels. For the taxpayer, this project is just another nail in the budget coffin. It is only profitable if the cost to build and operate the rail lines are not included.


8 posted on 10/31/2011 8:09:39 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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The Federal Congress should pass a bill congratulating Kalifornia for their planning ability and guaranteeing Kali that the Fed will not take any profits from the hi speed train while also affirming that the Fed will not make any contributions to assist should the planning numbers prove to be full of Obama.


9 posted on 10/31/2011 8:10:06 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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...but also would be profitable even at the lowest ridership estimates and would not require public operating subsidies

And there are actually people stupid enough to believe this!


10 posted on 10/31/2011 8:17:46 PM PDT by Iron Munro ('We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them.' -- Mitt Romney)
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So, how are they going to get someone to build it for all the money they don’t have? Unlike the Federal Government, they can’t just print money. The chances of this actually happening is somewhere between zilch and a Bond measure nobody would vote for in the next election.

This is political gas passing and democrap wishthink at best.

Note for Democraps, you have raided the treasury, there are not going to be any more free gravy trains.


12 posted on 10/31/2011 8:21:18 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Ahh, I'm so glad this project is going forward. I've been waiting eagerly for years for it to start, ever since that stupid rail bond passed. I can not wait, sitting back with my popcorn, to see the upcoming fight when the teacher's unions realize that they're about to get suckerpunched nearly to the tune of 10 billion dollars to pay for this rail system.
13 posted on 10/31/2011 8:26:38 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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20 years to build!?!?!?!? They’re taking their sweet time


14 posted on 10/31/2011 8:26:53 PM PDT by 4rcane
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Its not a railroad...its a perpetual union employment machine...requiring DemoCrat politicians to operate....


15 posted on 10/31/2011 8:30:19 PM PDT by mo
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16 posted on 10/31/2011 8:39:08 PM PDT by twistedwrench
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That cost is nothing compared to what the union workers that run it will cost in legacy expenses.


17 posted on 10/31/2011 8:41:14 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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If they say 98, it will come in at 198


20 posted on 10/31/2011 8:50:54 PM PDT by dila813
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No mention of the eminent domain abuse taking homes, farms and businesses for this totally unnecessary boondoggle.


21 posted on 10/31/2011 8:54:22 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Does that cost include buying all the land that Reid and Pelosi own all along the way?


22 posted on 10/31/2011 8:54:30 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Israel is real:))
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“SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — The new business plan for California’s high-speed rail system shows the nation’s most ambitious state rail project could cost nearly $100 billion in inflation-adjusted funding over a 20-year construction period but also would be profitable even at the lowest ridership estimates and would not require public operating subsidies, according to a draft copy of the plan shared late Monday with The Associated Press.”

Bulls**t, bulls**t, and bulls**t.

No matter what the estimate, tripling it is entirely safe.
In the entire world, there are perhaps 20 passenger train lines that are self-supporting revenue wise.
This has been true for 50 years.

The only way this will ever make sense is is gas goes to $50. And that may not be out or range for their plans for us.


23 posted on 10/31/2011 8:55:40 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Madoff screwed the rich. Bernanke screwed us all.)
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would be profitable even at the lowest ridership estimates and would not require public operating subsidies

Yeah....and includes a detour over a bridge from Brooklyn that was acquired at low cost.

26 posted on 10/31/2011 9:02:40 PM PDT by spokeshave (Cain....100% American, 100% Black and 100% for the Constitution...999 an added benefit.)
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I love how the AP thinks: Profitable... counting only operating costs. The $100 billion... that doesn’t count.


28 posted on 10/31/2011 9:28:37 PM PDT by dangus
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Now, lets put these calculations into the whizzinator.

Wizzzzzz-

$100 billion. If the ticket cost included, say, $10 dollars as amortization of the original investment, say for one hundred years, then to break even on the investment would need 275,000 tickets per day,each day, not including interest, over the one hundred years.

Now, if a train car carried 100 passengers in each car, and each train was ten cars long, you would need 275 trains per day, or from 6am to midnight 15 trains per hour; one every four minutes!

Yep, I’m sure that that this will be a real winner!


31 posted on 10/31/2011 10:28:59 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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