Posted on 10/30/2011 4:05:59 PM PDT by Kaslin
A number of years ago, I was on Larry King Live and was asked point-blank if I had a problem with the appointments of Justices Roberts and Alito (both are Roman Catholics). My answer was very clear that I did not, as long as they shared my own conviction of upholding the Constitution — not trying to rewrite it — and as long as they were committed to the Biblical values of the Founding Fathers. I was certain that both men were.
Many people today are quoting a statement reputedly made by Martin Luther, the great reformer, that he “would rather be ruled by a competent Turk (a Muslim) than an incompetent Christian.” First of all, there is no evidence whatsoever that Martin Luther ever said these words. But even if he did say them, it would have been a gross exaggeration used to make a point. He never lived under a Muslim ruler and did not know what that would be like. But I did. And I can tell you, there is no such thing as choosing between Muslim and non-Muslim leaders under Islam.
pastedGraphic.pdf In America, we have the great privilege of choosing candidates based on our core values, rather than how they identify with our theological point of view.
In looking at some of the candidates for the 2012 election, one cannot help but notice the controversies that have arisen regarding the Mormon religion. As I considered Luther’s quote and the concerns regarding electing a Mormon president, I noticed some peculiar similarities between the Mormon faith and Islam as they relate to orthodox Christianity.
It's hard to believe that two religions that are worlds apart geographically have so many things in common. Here are some examples:
1. Both believe that Christianity was corrupt and incomplete until their respective founders came on the scene. For Islam, it was Muhammad; for Mormons, it was Joseph Smith.
2. They both have their own book of “sacred scripture.” While both tip their hats to the Bible, each see God’s Word as insufficient by itself. Both Islam and Mormonism use many biblical themes, narratives and personalities. But the Qur’an draws heavily from the apocryphal books rather than the authoritative cannon of the Bible.
3. In both cases, Islam and Mormonism see their religion as complete within itself. Above all, both repudiate Biblical Christianity and identify orthodox Christianity as a false faith.
4. Both religions reject the doctrine of the Trinity. The Mormon’s concept of god includes many gods, not just one. Muslims view god as one, but as an aloof, remote god who could never become a man or relate to humanity. Allah can have mercy if he wants to, but he is also a cunning god.
5. Both religions reject the Bible as the sole and sufficient authority of faith. For Mormons, the Book of Mormon and other writings of the Latter Day Saints represent God’s final revelation. For Muslims, the Qur’an and the Sunna (traditions of Muhammad) constitute God’s final authoritative word.
6. They both reject the Biblical teaching of original sin. Muslims believe Adam did not become completely depraved after disobeying God; he merely slipped but quickly recovered. Therefore to Muslims, humanity does not need redemption. Salvation in Islam is very uncertain, even when keeping the Five Tenants of Islam; although some teach that jihad will help in that quest for salvation. Mormons believe that they are not condemned by what many call “original sin.” In other words, they are not accountable for Adam’s transgression in the Garden of Eden.
Here are two questions Christians must ask when considering political candidates:
First, has the candidate been consistent in his/her political and moral values, or is he/she pandering? Second, has the candidate upheld their philosophical convictions throughout their public and private life, or did they change their political convictions to suit their audience?
All believers need to be good stewards and spend time in deep prayer before exercising their right to vote. God will give us wisdom so that we will not be persuaded by the slickest and the cleverest. We can trust Him to help us choose those who have proven core values.
not in the context for which I used it.
Yes many of the people in G-Bay feel the same way. You’ll fit right in.
Well, Luther was in his own strange space (towards the end of his bitter, unhappy life, he wrote in favor of polygamy, btw), but I think there’s a difference between intra-Christian disputes and heresies - and something that is entirely something else and non-Christian.
Islam and Mormonism are entirely something else. They’re not Christian.
Luther didn’t create a religion.
You can't (or won't) possibly understand, so let's leave it there.
He created a heresy, which is the same thing.
If polygamy is your measure you should use care. Polygamy is in the Word of God too.
Not quite, but he did undermine the political power of the corrupt Catholics of the time. For that he made many enemies.
I believe ya
America is lucky to have a large population of good independent people like the Mormons. They maintain strong family values and high morals. They have their own welfare system, are patriotic and love America (except Harry Reid), plus they have a history of not taking crap from anyone.
There are, of course, exceptions in EVERY religion.
You have to ask yourself this question. Would you rather have your daughter marry a Mormon or a member of the Al Queda branch of Islam?
I’m no fan of Romney (the flip-flopping RINO), but will vote for him to keep 0bama (the America hating Muslim) from destroying the United States.
These Mormon-hating threads are getting quite tiresome and extremely childish.
both man made.
Polygamy was something practiced by the Jews (along with all the other ME peoples) until God led them out of it. If you want to jump way back in time to the semi-pagan dawn, that’s fine, go ahead. But don’t expect Christians to approve of it.
Just admit what you are, practitioners of a cult based on scraps of the early OT, weird spiritualist (i.e., pagan) practices, and a few names and personalities from the NT, welded together by your own personal prophet. In other words, Islam.
King Solomon is semi-pagan?
“Just admit what you are”
ok you got me, I’m a Christian.
“In other words, Islam.”
Now you are being just plain stupid.
You have to ask yourself this question. Would you rather have your daughter marry a Muslim or a member of the William Jeffries polygamy branch of mormonism?
The problem with Romney is he will be a pinata for his flip flops and his mormonism. You think that the Media will back off over his religion. You need to wake up and smell the coffee (pun intended). This web site is nothing to what is going to be unleashed.
Strange, how I came across that research, as an Australian I was barely familiar with mormonism. Came across it about three years ago as the result of reading ‘The Life of Muhammad’ published in 1913, and something clicked. The ‘golden tablets’ I knew about, that reminded me of the ‘holy koran’ - the original being the word of allah transmitted through an archangel. I Googled the keywords MORMON ISLAM.
And there it all was...
http://www.muhammadanism.org/Canon_Sell/muhammad/life_muhammad.pdf
mohammad plagiarized...but he wasn’t the last.
This is not a religion. This is a Secret Society. A guy studied a few different religions and picked out a few points that he liked from each and made up his own cult! Anyone ever hear of Jim Jones? These people fully intend to take this country and the world. They use the same seduction methods as Satan used in the Garden of Eden, with the same promises: You will become gods! To them, no one is worth anything if he/she is not Mormon. This is not a religion! This is a cult! Look up the meaning of the word in the dictionary!
In answer to your question would I rather marry a Mormon than a Muslim, I believe you asked, I am a 100% Spirit filled Christian woman. I would marry only a 100% Spirit filled Christian man.
Honey, Your wife, if hyou have one, should empty the bottle of whatever you are drinking down the sink.
The Mormon Church is huge. Maybe some of them are Democrats, but you can bet they will all be voting for Mitt.
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