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To: artichokegrower

A Nat Geo show on game wardens had some of these freedom lovers showcased, basically psychopathic game poachers and drug addled losers. Not saying that everyone who mouths the word “freedom” is a load on society, but when the word “freedom” is used the question, “From what” must always be asked.


5 posted on 10/30/2011 7:41:42 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: junta

So, are they just doin’ the subsistence poaching on Lord 0bama’s land that the rest of America doesn’t want to do?


6 posted on 10/30/2011 7:45:43 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: junta
"A Nat Geo show...."

I'm sure that that show was unbiased and had no agenda.

7 posted on 10/30/2011 7:47:15 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: junta

Well as one who lives and works in a rural area I would like the freedom to continue to earn a living and to feed America. I would like freedom from over regulation by labor boards, air quality boards, water quality boards, coastal boards, and more which are all made up of unelected unaccountable bureaucrats. In the end I would like to pass on what Ive worked for and earned on to my children without the feds confiscating most of it. We country folks aren’t all that complicated.


10 posted on 10/30/2011 7:48:45 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: junta

I live in a rural area. I own a farm. I want to run a dairy here. Do you have any idea how much red tape I have to navigate just to sell the milk from two cows to my friends and neighbors?

It’s ridiculous but statists continually vote for people that place these burdens upon us.


20 posted on 10/30/2011 8:01:49 AM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: junta; All
A Nat Geo show on game wardens

I was a game warden in California for a bit and in Wisconsin. The really strange thing was that I found that game wardens in Wisconsin were really all about power and pushing people around without much concern for what they were accomplishing. They were an extremely inbred and strange organization. I came to trust police officers far more than game wardens, because game wardens had almost no oversight, really liked to write tickets for small infractions, and had a mentality that if they wrote a ticket to someone that technically did not deserve it, they were only making up for some other infraction that they had not caught.

Years later, I was told of a Game warden in California that I had known, that had (IMHO), abused his position. I was very glad to get out of that organization. It was the worst professional job that I have ever had.

26 posted on 10/30/2011 8:10:12 AM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: junta

I’ve been watching that show too. The fines are way way light compared to what I’ve heard from people (a deliberate violation results, i.e. carrying buckshot in Turkey season, in the loss of gun and truck). Moreover, on the show, they are very respectful of land owners but that is not true in real life. Most states let game wardens write their own search permits (in a legally justified violation of the fourth amendment) and they take that to extremes, driving on posted property unannounced, etc. etc. Last, in areas with a high deer population, farmers are typically allowed to shoot deer on sight out of season but on that show they wrote some geezer a ticket for terminally wounding a deer in his two acre garden with a .22.

I like the show but it doesn’t jive with what I know.


42 posted on 10/30/2011 9:42:31 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: junta

One more comment.

On one show they were searching for hog meat. In SC hogs can be killed at almost all times (even at night with flashlights) with whatever guns are allowed for other seasons or any personal protection gun you might be carrying. No tags, no season, etc. etc. They are a non-native species that eats everything, are dangerous and poop everywhere. Worse than crows. But in CA they are “part of the wildlife” if I remember what they said correctly.


45 posted on 10/30/2011 9:57:39 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: junta
"Freedom from what" must always be asked???

Wrong. The questions that should be asked is "Laws to restrict what? We need them why?"

I will bet my bottom dollar that there are some freedoms you enjoy, behaviors you indulge that I think are stupid and destructive. As a hypothetical example -- soda pop. I KNOW for a fact that drinking a lot of soda is stupid and destructive. I AM correct on that, and what if, with the power of righteousness, I supported laws to restrict YOUR FREEDOM to drink all the soda pop and to have your children drink all the soda pop you wanted?

And suddenly you want to be free from those regulations, and I sneer at you and say, "Yeah, you want freedom -- from what?"

Frankly, I'd rather tolerate "drug-addled losers" and "psychopathic game poachers" in order to be FREE FROM THE LIKES OF YOU. You presume to determine at which point one turns from being a harmless social drinker/occasional dope smoker to "drug addled loser," and when one turns from taking wild game off public land to being a "psychopathic game poacher"???

Freedom from what? FREEDOM FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

48 posted on 10/30/2011 10:56:35 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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