Posted on 10/30/2011 7:34:54 AM PDT by artichokegrower
SACRAMENTO – The nearly five-hour drive from the Sacramento area to Yreka, in Siskiyou County by the Oregon border, was a reminder not just of the immense size and beauty of California, but of the vast regional and cultural differences one finds within our 37-million-population state.
Sacramento is Government Central, a land of overly pensioned bureaucrats and restaurant discounts for state workers. But way up in the North State, one finds a small but hard-edged rural populace that views state and federal officials as the main obstacles to their quality of life.
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>It’s the same everywhere. The election results maps prove it out nationwide.
I read this and started thinking it appears that people are being nudged toward urban areas as a result of environmental policies. Big Enviro is destroying their rural livelihood with red tape and reclamation. These rural California counties are the ones that elect the few Republicans in our state legislature. If it works in Cali...
Thank Agenda 21
I’ve been watching that show too. The fines are way way light compared to what I’ve heard from people (a deliberate violation results, i.e. carrying buckshot in Turkey season, in the loss of gun and truck). Moreover, on the show, they are very respectful of land owners but that is not true in real life. Most states let game wardens write their own search permits (in a legally justified violation of the fourth amendment) and they take that to extremes, driving on posted property unannounced, etc. etc. Last, in areas with a high deer population, farmers are typically allowed to shoot deer on sight out of season but on that show they wrote some geezer a ticket for terminally wounding a deer in his two acre garden with a .22.
I like the show but it doesn’t jive with what I know.
I think good old Patrick Henry will be quoted more and more often in the coming years. He wasn’t a states right-er and was very much against the national government. Perfect for our times.
As a former game warden, would you comment on the “search warrant” thing, please?
One more comment.
On one show they were searching for hog meat. In SC hogs can be killed at almost all times (even at night with flashlights) with whatever guns are allowed for other seasons or any personal protection gun you might be carrying. No tags, no season, etc. etc. They are a non-native species that eats everything, are dangerous and poop everywhere. Worse than crows. But in CA they are “part of the wildlife” if I remember what they said correctly.
California took the funds that were budgeted for state fire protection in rural zones and then placed a ~175.00 plus fee on all land (per habitable buildings)in that zone on property owners. My woodshed is habitable.
One of the 700 plus new laws passed this year with only a simple majority.
Those state lawmakers sure know how to puinish those rural conservatives good.
The environmental laws never made sense, until you look at Agenda 21.
The Agenda 21 scheme, known in California as the Emerald Cities Program, is probably unstoppable now in California, short of cutting off all State & Federal funds going to green & sustainable projects and possibly rebellion.
I’ve been connecting the dots on Agenda 21 for 4-5 years now. This year, with 3 court rulings, Agenda 21 is cemented into California law. Cap & Trade was the ultimate goal.
The people of California don’t even realize what the future holds for them.
http://www.conservation.ca.gov/index/Documents/Sustainable_Communities_FactSheet.pdf
Wrong. The questions that should be asked is "Laws to restrict what? We need them why?"
I will bet my bottom dollar that there are some freedoms you enjoy, behaviors you indulge that I think are stupid and destructive. As a hypothetical example -- soda pop. I KNOW for a fact that drinking a lot of soda is stupid and destructive. I AM correct on that, and what if, with the power of righteousness, I supported laws to restrict YOUR FREEDOM to drink all the soda pop and to have your children drink all the soda pop you wanted?
And suddenly you want to be free from those regulations, and I sneer at you and say, "Yeah, you want freedom -- from what?"
Frankly, I'd rather tolerate "drug-addled losers" and "psychopathic game poachers" in order to be FREE FROM THE LIKES OF YOU. You presume to determine at which point one turns from being a harmless social drinker/occasional dope smoker to "drug addled loser," and when one turns from taking wild game off public land to being a "psychopathic game poacher"???
Freedom from what? FREEDOM FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
No, it’s the opposite. The Forest Service wants to prevent local people from accessing National Forest so as to make it easier for the drug cartel’s huge MJ growing operations on public land. I live surrounded by National Forests and I know what I am talking about. My County Sheriff Gil Gilbertson is a great Constitutionalist and is fighting the feds. I love the guy.
I moved to SW Oregon about 11 years ago. There were a number of sawmills left in my county. Now down to one, and IIRC they employ less than 1/2 the people even than a few years ago, and that was a reduction. It’s a severely depressed place. Jobs? none.
It'd be better for the local Counties to confiscate the Federal Forest Land within their jurisdiction (maybe as one of those drug related activity property confiscations - they could take their trucks too).
Very interesting, just what I figured. Since the DEA, DOJ, BATF etc are all helping arm the cartels, it only makes sense that the FS is assisting them as well.
I like your plan and it’s going to come to it sooner or later or something similar. The commie/cartel/(and I can’t leave out muzzie) affiliated government we somehow have will not stop until there is an absolute dictatorhship in the US. And since 0hbummer has proven himself to be the best gun/ammo salesman ever, the outcome they want is not assured.
I might be better to start harvesting some lumber before the muzzies burn it down.
You are either a troll or an absolute idiot. That’s all I have to say. You have never lived in Northern CA, and you have no clue as to the mind set of the people here but you proclaim we are all criminals and the freedom we want is the freedom to break the law. What a total dipsh** you are. Enough said.
Given the the US gov't is after Gibson for getting raw wood in from 'Frica, it wood (haha) seem that we should be sawing North America's logs withing the confines of our shores to provide value added exports.
But will anyone buy it? Every now and then we have a guy with a portable sawmill come and mill some trees, and we use it for building projects. It’s rough but planers smooth it down. Still a bit cheaper than buying milled lumber. I see on Craigslist people trying to sell their own lumber but it’s expensive and not usually kiln dried.
Globalims is extremely destructive. IIRC the one sawmill we have left specializes in large logs and sells that lumber to Japan.
No Wood for Oil!, then.
The more self-sufficient as a country we are, the stronger and better.
Living within our means of course, as well.
But I think my tagline will have to happen first.
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