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To: saganite

“Hmm. I suspect they will have to hide he real power source for the data farm. Even 170 acres of solar cells won’t do the job when it’s dark. Or raining. Or cloudy.”

So, if it works even 50% of the time, they’ve saved on electricity (less their solar costs).

It’s private capital. I am going to assume they’ve run the numbers. No way this is a PR move.


7 posted on 10/29/2011 9:11:17 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: cowtowney; saganite

You’re assuming it’s private capital. I’m doubting it. Remember who is in the White House.


10 posted on 10/29/2011 9:13:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: cowtowney

For proper installation you have to do a “cloud analysis” to properly locate the panels. Using more inverters will help the efficiency.

Some states allows people/businesses to sell back power. It would be good move to reduce cost during peak demand.

As long as they do it on their own dime, I have no issue with it.


14 posted on 10/29/2011 9:15:46 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: cowtowney

” I am going to assume they’ve run the numbers. No way this is a PR move.”

PLease. It is a total PR move. Solar takes several decades to pay off, if it ever does. It makes no business sense whatsoever.


15 posted on 10/29/2011 9:17:06 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: cowtowney

Considering the Apple ties to the democrat socialist party, I would not be surprised if some digging revealed a large green jobs/green energy based infusion of taxpayer dollars into this project.


16 posted on 10/29/2011 9:17:32 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: cowtowney

Less their solar costs is a hell of a lot. It isn’t just install and hook up and that’s it. Solar panels require intensive maintenance. Despite your claims that it’s private capital I doubt it is all funded out of Apple’s pocket. There are huge subsidies involved from the govt to encourage these things. Apple is obviously taking advantage of every penny of subsidy. I suspect the primary purpose is for PR though. They have billions and their clientele is “green” so it’s good business to have pictures of some nice shiny mirrors outside they can put in their sales literature. They’re certainly not doing it because it’s cost effective.


24 posted on 10/29/2011 9:36:30 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: cowtowney
It’s private capital. I am going to assume they’ve run the numbers. No way this is a PR move.

You are misinformed about the economics of solar power. This project is a product of heavy government subsidies, not private investment decisions. Subsidies permeate this project from federal/state tax credits, utility forced investments, utility power mandates, and net metering (forcing utilities to offset power use with excess solar power generated). Without this boatload of subsidies, this project would be laughed out of Apple's capital budgeting mix. The subsidies are paid by higher government borrowing, taxes, and utility rates. Most of the manufacturing is performed in China.
32 posted on 10/29/2011 10:05:46 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: cowtowney
Well, of course it is at least partially a PR move. Why do you think you are reading about it?
40 posted on 10/29/2011 10:33:00 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: cowtowney
It’s private capital. I am going to assume they’ve run the numbers. No way this is a PR move.

I'll bet they ran the numbers. Big tax incentives to install the solar equipment. It is exactly PR. Apple being "green". When it fails to do the job, they write it off as a loss. Another way to save on their tax bills. It's not an area known for being excessively sunny. A Mojave desert location would be believable, but Apple already understands what total boneheads CA regulators can be.

54 posted on 10/29/2011 1:16:42 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: cowtowney
It’s private capital.

Are there government subsidies for all this "green" stuff. If is obvious that loan guarantees are.

60 posted on 10/29/2011 5:14:25 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: cowtowney
No way this is a PR move.

Now _that's_ funny,

76 posted on 10/29/2011 7:27:33 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: cowtowney
It’s private capital. I am going to assume they’ve run the numbers. No way this is a PR move.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Don't forget to face Apple Mecca when you pray today


90 posted on 10/30/2011 2:59:30 AM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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