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Pope Benedict Calls For “Central World Bank” … Only He Didn’t. Here’s Why.
CatholicVote.org ^ | 10/24/2011 | Thomas Peters

Posted on 10/24/2011 10:01:03 AM PDT by KOZ.

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Before many on this forum slam the Church for what the Pope apparently calls for, I say we get the facts straight.
1 posted on 10/24/2011 10:01:06 AM PDT by KOZ.
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To: KOZ.

I agree. That said, the Catholic Church needs to work on it’s own internal problems before telling the world anything. More specifically, they need to start excommunicating Catholic politicians who openly defy the church’s positions on abortion, and clean house with priests who are abusing children. But then as with most organized religions, the Catholic Church looks the other way when it benefits them either financially or with being able to curry favor with the powerful. The Mormons are doing the same thing with the likes of Harry Reid. Harry directly contradicts Mormon theology nearly every time he opens his mouth!


2 posted on 10/24/2011 10:07:33 AM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: KOZ.

Thanks for posting this.

Unfortunately, if you scroll down the forum, many have seized this opportunity to Catholic-bash already, including many who identify themselves as “catholics”. Dummies.


3 posted on 10/24/2011 10:15:37 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: vette6387

The church doesn’t ‘tell the world’ anything.

that was an idiotic rant.


4 posted on 10/24/2011 10:15:56 AM PDT by KOZ.
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To: KOZ.

I don’t believe that most of the leaders of the Catholic church care about democracy, a constitutional republic, or even logic when it comes to policy. They operate out of pie in the sky fantasy and emotion, rather than a realistic look at what actually works and what doesn’t. I think the Catholic church would be happy if it ruled by decree and made all the decisions for the masses.

When the Catholic church gets its far left marxist clergy under control, stops encouraging illegal aliens to break the law and stay in the US, quits interfering in US foreign policy, punishes and excommunicates its pedophile priests and cracks down on all the homo’s they seem to encourage to be priests, maybe I will pay attention to what the Catholic church has to say - until then, they should stick to trying to save souls and shut up when it comes to politics.


5 posted on 10/24/2011 10:21:56 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: KOZ.

Thank you for this post.


6 posted on 10/24/2011 10:22:34 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: KOZ.

” . . . a home for the fowls of the air.”

Reminded me about the mustard seed parable, and the contradiction Jesus placed within it at the end. No mustard seed plant can sustain a nest, but that’s precisely what He suggested would happen - that His church would someday provide a home for those devoted to destroying it.


7 posted on 10/24/2011 10:27:20 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: KOZ.
Before many on this forum slam the Church for what the Pope apparently calls for, I say we get the facts straight.

But .... but ....

How can we possibly have a properly vitriolic Hate-the-Church fest if we get the facts straight?

8 posted on 10/24/2011 10:27:38 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: KOZ.

I want to know why Drudge wants to stir up dissension on the right by bannering “Pope says...” when it is eminently clear his Reuters source point to a Vatican office rather than the Holy Father.


9 posted on 10/24/2011 10:30:24 AM PDT by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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To: vette6387

And I think you need to know a lot more before offering advice to the Catholic Church, nOOb.


10 posted on 10/24/2011 10:33:01 AM PDT by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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To: Longbow1969

Your “attention” is not required by the Catholic Church, nor anyone else that hasn’t the time for “he can’t even spell ‘potato’” analysis....


11 posted on 10/24/2011 10:40:13 AM PDT by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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>> Hate-the-Church fest

LOL, exactly

The sad thing is, so far they're forgetting to bring up the inquisition, crusades, Pope Joan, Galileo, indulgences etc etc etc

Amateurs.

12 posted on 10/24/2011 10:40:39 AM PDT by KOZ.
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To: papertyger

Good question. I’d hope he knows better.


13 posted on 10/24/2011 10:45:23 AM PDT by KOZ.
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To: KOZ.
This is the parsing of words in the extreme.

The Council on Justice and Peace is authoritative for the Vatican and Church unless reined in by the Pope.

Yes, the Catholic Church is at least socialist and they do seek to enter the political debate.

They do not support a society with winners and losers and in my book that means they do not support human liberty.

14 posted on 10/24/2011 10:47:43 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Are you a Bible Christian?


15 posted on 10/24/2011 10:52:23 AM PDT by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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To: KOZ.

that’s what having a 13th Century media strategy will getcha...


16 posted on 10/24/2011 10:58:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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If it comes from the mouth of a Jesuit it’s probably best to assume it’s a lie and go from there.


17 posted on 10/24/2011 11:05:01 AM PDT by Hayride
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To: Longbow1969
When the Catholic church gets its far left marxist clergy under control, stops encouraging illegal aliens to break the law and stay in the US, quits interfering in US foreign policy, punishes and excommunicates its pedophile priests and cracks down on all the homo’s they seem to encourage to be priests, maybe I will pay attention to what the Catholic church has to say - until then, they should stick to trying to save souls and shut up when it comes to politics.

BINGO!!!!

18 posted on 10/24/2011 11:06:59 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: Mariner
The Council on Justice and Peace is authoritative for the Vatican and Church unless reined in by the Pope.

No it isn't.

J&P has the role of 'promoting justice and peace in the world, in the light of the Gospel and of the social teaching of the Church'. It has no authority - as that word is understood in the Church - because the Church claims no authority in such matters.

Pope John 23rd said that capitalism was the best way man had discovered to create wealth. He was right, but even he wasn't seen as pronouncing authoritatively for the whole Church. It just doesn't work like that.

The Church couldn't *authoritatively* declare Hayek right and Keynes wrong, or vice versa - that would mean going beyond its ambit.

What we have here is some lefty screed from a loser committee in J&P. Not the voice of the Church.

Hope this was helpful.

19 posted on 10/24/2011 11:10:16 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: KOZ.

This isn’t the Pope talking but still it this is an instruction WITHIN the Vatican that is within orthodox Vatican thought, No? I mean they aren’t a bunchy of renegades are they?

It is fair to wonder how influential this point of view is within the Vatican. And it is fair to wonder what are the odds the next Pope (may Benedict live long and health) will agree with this faction.


20 posted on 10/24/2011 11:24:03 AM PDT by DManA
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