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Before many on this forum slam the Church for what the Pope apparently calls for, I say we get the facts straight.
1 posted on 10/24/2011 10:01:06 AM PDT by KOZ.
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To: KOZ.

I agree. That said, the Catholic Church needs to work on it’s own internal problems before telling the world anything. More specifically, they need to start excommunicating Catholic politicians who openly defy the church’s positions on abortion, and clean house with priests who are abusing children. But then as with most organized religions, the Catholic Church looks the other way when it benefits them either financially or with being able to curry favor with the powerful. The Mormons are doing the same thing with the likes of Harry Reid. Harry directly contradicts Mormon theology nearly every time he opens his mouth!


2 posted on 10/24/2011 10:07:33 AM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: KOZ.

Thanks for posting this.

Unfortunately, if you scroll down the forum, many have seized this opportunity to Catholic-bash already, including many who identify themselves as “catholics”. Dummies.


3 posted on 10/24/2011 10:15:37 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: KOZ.

I don’t believe that most of the leaders of the Catholic church care about democracy, a constitutional republic, or even logic when it comes to policy. They operate out of pie in the sky fantasy and emotion, rather than a realistic look at what actually works and what doesn’t. I think the Catholic church would be happy if it ruled by decree and made all the decisions for the masses.

When the Catholic church gets its far left marxist clergy under control, stops encouraging illegal aliens to break the law and stay in the US, quits interfering in US foreign policy, punishes and excommunicates its pedophile priests and cracks down on all the homo’s they seem to encourage to be priests, maybe I will pay attention to what the Catholic church has to say - until then, they should stick to trying to save souls and shut up when it comes to politics.


5 posted on 10/24/2011 10:21:56 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: KOZ.

Thank you for this post.


6 posted on 10/24/2011 10:22:34 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: KOZ.

” . . . a home for the fowls of the air.”

Reminded me about the mustard seed parable, and the contradiction Jesus placed within it at the end. No mustard seed plant can sustain a nest, but that’s precisely what He suggested would happen - that His church would someday provide a home for those devoted to destroying it.


7 posted on 10/24/2011 10:27:20 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: KOZ.
Before many on this forum slam the Church for what the Pope apparently calls for, I say we get the facts straight.

But .... but ....

How can we possibly have a properly vitriolic Hate-the-Church fest if we get the facts straight?

8 posted on 10/24/2011 10:27:38 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: KOZ.

I want to know why Drudge wants to stir up dissension on the right by bannering “Pope says...” when it is eminently clear his Reuters source point to a Vatican office rather than the Holy Father.


9 posted on 10/24/2011 10:30:24 AM PDT by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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To: KOZ.
This is the parsing of words in the extreme.

The Council on Justice and Peace is authoritative for the Vatican and Church unless reined in by the Pope.

Yes, the Catholic Church is at least socialist and they do seek to enter the political debate.

They do not support a society with winners and losers and in my book that means they do not support human liberty.

14 posted on 10/24/2011 10:47:43 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: KOZ.

that’s what having a 13th Century media strategy will getcha...


16 posted on 10/24/2011 10:58:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: KOZ.

This isn’t the Pope talking but still it this is an instruction WITHIN the Vatican that is within orthodox Vatican thought, No? I mean they aren’t a bunchy of renegades are they?

It is fair to wonder how influential this point of view is within the Vatican. And it is fair to wonder what are the odds the next Pope (may Benedict live long and health) will agree with this faction.


20 posted on 10/24/2011 11:24:03 AM PDT by DManA
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To: KOZ.

What facts do we need to get straight?

Obviously the Vatican apparatus isn’t a huge leftist think tank living off of the tithes of the faithful-so what ‘facts’ are you talking about.


21 posted on 10/24/2011 11:32:24 AM PDT by Rippin
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To: KOZ.

Some wit realized that this was ridiculous early on, so decided to rewrite the headline as:

VATICAN CALLS FOR ‘CENTRAL WORLD RELIGION’...


28 posted on 10/24/2011 12:22:59 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: KOZ.

bttt


30 posted on 10/24/2011 12:42:56 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: KOZ.
It's not the Pope or even the Church I fear, it's the creation of any world govrning body and the hand that controlls it.

Was it Rothschild who said " Give me (control of) the banks and the courts and I could rule the world"

World government(UN)World courts and next world banks.

Just need "The Hand" now to rule it(Anti-Christ anyone?)
32 posted on 10/24/2011 12:48:26 PM PDT by RedMonqey (A politician's integrity is usually only as strong as his poll numbers.)
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To: KOZ.

It’s the liberal media doing what it does, again.

http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=21986

Liberal Charles Curran “previewed” Humanae Vitae and the libs claimed the Pope wants a central world bank. He doesn’t. It was a typical misstatement by the libs.

Many years ago, our local paper claimed that the Pope said that a widow could not remarry. Weeks later, and I would suspect after many complaints, the paper corrected their statement to just what the Pope actually said, which was that since marriage forms sexual appetites, a widow who remains chaste after losing her husband, receives special blessings. And, yes, of course she can remarry.

The liberal media never stops attacking the Catholic church.


33 posted on 10/24/2011 1:28:04 PM PDT by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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To: KOZ.

I was just telling my husband there must be another side, so I visited FR, and sure enough there is.

Thank you!


36 posted on 10/24/2011 6:27:44 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: KOZ.

Placemark.


48 posted on 10/24/2011 10:54:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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