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In Memoir, Rice Tells of Clashes With Cheney
NYTimes ^ | 10-22-11 | Peter Baker

Posted on 10/22/2011 4:56:08 PM PDT by STARWISE

*snip*

First as national security adviser and later as secretary of state, Ms. Rice often argued against the hard-line approach that Mr. Cheney and others advanced. The vice president’s staff was “very much of one ultra-hawkish mind,” she writes, adding that the most intense confrontation between her and Mr. Cheney came when she argued that terrorism suspects could not be “disappeared” as in some authoritarian states.

In November 2001, she writes, she went to President George W. Bush upon learning that he had issued an order prepared by the White House counsel, Alberto R. Gonzales, authorizing military commissions without telling her. “If this happens again,” she told the president, “either Al Gonzales or I will have to resign.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; backed0bama; bookseller; cheney; compromiser; condi; condiisabackstabber; condiisademocratlib; condiisaliberal; condirice; condiwho; noloyalty; notpreparedon911; notready4primetime; presbush; terrorists; unqualified; wot; wouldnotfolloworders
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To: jenk
I love Dick Cheney, that dude’s got a set.

which is why an insecure overachieving woman can't stand him.

Exactly why is she writing "memoirs," anyway?

21 posted on 10/22/2011 5:59:50 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: STARWISE
The more I read about Cheney, the more I wish he'd been president instead of Bush. But at least Bush had the wisdom to choose Cheney as his VP.


22 posted on 10/22/2011 6:00:31 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: Cinnamontea

I, on the other hand, thank God and am so very grateful for Pres. George W. Bush, his unqualified love for and loyalty to America, his relentless resolve for our safety, his deep honor for the Office, his abiding love and support for our great troops, among many other things. And, yes, course, he’s a very smart man and a patriot, and he chose a great man to be at his side.

God bless and protect Pres. Bush and VP Cheney always.


23 posted on 10/22/2011 6:08:19 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Cheney was the Colonel Walter Kurtz of the Bush admin. You can argue if he was right or even moral, but you can never doubt the efficacy of his means.

But the comments on this thread that Condi was a quota hire are reprehensible and borderline racist. She has every big a set as Cheney.


24 posted on 10/22/2011 6:12:06 PM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: STARWISE

Cheney was the Colonel Walter Kurtz of the Bush admin. You can argue if he was right or even moral, but you can never doubt the efficacy of his means.

But the comments on this thread that Condi was a quota hire are reprehensible and borderline racist. She has at least as big a set as Cheney.


25 posted on 10/22/2011 6:13:12 PM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: STARWISE
Clashes should be expected at the highest levels in a time of deep change and I, for one, am glad Bush allowed his advisors to feel free to speak their minds and have those discussions. I am glad that now Condi is letting us know what these discussions involved.

President Bush led and always made the final decision unlike our current "lead-from-behind" coward.

26 posted on 10/22/2011 6:20:51 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: STARWISE
I have always thought that Condi was very good

at doing nothing.

27 posted on 10/22/2011 6:22:02 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: STARWISE

She publicly admitted after 9-11 that she and those who worked for her were insufficiently alert to the threats the nation faced.

She should have been forced to resign right then in disgrace.


28 posted on 10/22/2011 6:28:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: the invisib1e hand
I'm not sure I'd go that far, but I did become disenchanted with her [during the Bush years] for some reason, and that one reason became many.

Many of Bush's picks were less than spectacular, and that's being kind.

29 posted on 10/22/2011 6:32:22 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: the invisib1e hand

Isn’t it obvious? To team up with Colin Powell! Plus, if you attack Cheney, you may be able to someday become the NBA Commish!


30 posted on 10/22/2011 6:33:02 PM PDT by jenk (The country needs Sarah Palin and the Constitution.)
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To: Calvin Locke

Right. So Condi’s personality is Bush’s fault!


31 posted on 10/22/2011 6:35:20 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: newheart

And if Dick is tough (and he is) wife Lynn is much tougher!


32 posted on 10/22/2011 6:40:04 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: 9422WMR
Her whole academic expertise was security issues with the USSR. Joining the Bushies in 2000, 20 years after the USSR began to collapse, and trying to get up to speed on the muzzies and such was a little out of sync, to say the least.
33 posted on 10/22/2011 6:41:24 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 9422WMR
Her whole academic expertise was security issues with the USSR. Joining the Bushies in 2001, 20 years after the USSR began to collapse, and trying to get up to speed on the muzzies and such was a little out of sync, to say the least.
34 posted on 10/22/2011 6:41:56 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: STARWISE

One of GW’s most unfortunate faults is/was a misplaced sense of loyalty. At the first sign of trouble or friction between rice and either Bush’s staff or Cheney’s staff they should have cashiered her.


35 posted on 10/22/2011 6:42:16 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

LOL ... luv ya, Big Time!


36 posted on 10/22/2011 6:45:32 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (So much stress was put on Bush's Fault that it finally let go, magnitude 6)
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To: STARWISE
I have to give her this much credit: she's probably never been given the Margaret Sanger Award for Achievement by Planned Parenthood. Not yet, at least.


37 posted on 10/22/2011 6:47:50 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: STARWISE

This is not what my impression of her was at the time.

I am no longer a fan of Condaleeza Rice.

Sounds like she’s not better than Susan Rice.

I vote for Dick Cheney.

In fact. Dick Cheney for President.


38 posted on 10/22/2011 7:11:46 PM PDT by barstoolblues (Neither teabagger nor tyrant)
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To: STARWISE

‘..I’ll take Cheney’s guidance for protecting this nation every time over yours. Cheney rules! God bless and protect him....’

Ditto! Thanks for the nice picture of our wonderful VP.


39 posted on 10/22/2011 7:13:30 PM PDT by 4integrity
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To: hinckley buzzard

Yea,
I was never more ashamed of our secretary of state then when they had her perform her piano recital.
Are you kidding me?
Secretary of State is a show performer?
That would be like having Thomas Jefferson, the first secretary of state go on stage and juggle some oranges.
How far we have fallen.....


40 posted on 10/22/2011 7:23:05 PM PDT by 9422WMR
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