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To: KantianBurke

This dog was misrepresented by seller. As an owner of 6 German Shepherds over the past 40 yrs or so I can tell you the behavior exhibited or described by the buyer is anything but normal for this breed.

The described behavior indicates a dog not properly socialized in the critical time period from birth to 6 months. Dogs left mostly to themselves will, over a period of time want nothing to do with anyone or any other animal.

This is sad because the animal will in all probability be euthanized barring some very patient individual assuming ownership and working long and hard to do what should have been done much earlier on in this animals life.


4 posted on 10/21/2011 3:18:16 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: 101voodoo

Cats are the same way. They imprint within the first 8 weeks.

I have one cat, because we rough-housed with it, loves being man-handled and can handle rough, for a cat.

We have another cat that we took in, but it was older than the 8 weeks. When we first got her, she didn’t like to be touched at all, instant slashing. Now, after two years, we can pet her for a couple of minutes before she let’s us know she’s had enough.


5 posted on 10/21/2011 3:37:16 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: 101voodoo

You are right.

I’ve always made it a point to buy a very young puppy as my “life’s buddy” and to bond with it closely. Once a dog is obtained later in their young life, the bond can never be made as strong as that with a young puppy.

A “bonded” dog that is loved, cared for, and played with is a life enduring experience. They a social animals and never meant to be caged alone or to live alone.


6 posted on 10/21/2011 3:43:22 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: 101voodoo

Since the dog wasn’t a puppy rather a full grown dog and looking at the breeders page they are all from strong working lines not show lines and the older dogs they list shown recently are mostly SCH3. The price would lead me to believe it’s also a Shutzhund trained GSD. That’s a dog that’s NOT going to behave like a typical household pet and if the owner was not ready to own one and didn’t really understand what they were getting they were going to be very surprised.

I don’t buy the story the owner is telling especially in the way he responded and set the dog back. MY BS meter is really going off. I think the owners were very inexperienced owners and maybe this was the very first dog they’d owned and certainly the first dog of this nature (not a GSD but one who is a trained guard dog or a Shutzhund trained dog)

Any dog will try to become the leader of the pack (family) if the parent’s/owner doesn’t step up and become leader in the dogs eyes. They are still pack animals and packs need leaders. Some dogs are more dominant and assertive and take a stronger owner, That’s especially true of dogs trained as real protection dogs or Schutzhund trained dog. They have to be aggressive (not vicious), assertive, smart and have a lot of drive or they won’t be successful The owner has to recognize that and be the leader of the pack (as do all the humans in the family) and see that the dog gets work to do. If you aren’t capable of that your going to be a very unhappy owner and the dog is going to be unhappy and a wreck also.

Remember the guy who owned and wrote a book about a Lab named Marley (Marley and Me). All the problems with that dogs behavior were really the owners problems of a lack of pack leadership. When Marley passed away and the book was a runaway best seller his wife went out and bought a new Lab puppy. She wanted the best one that money could buy. So she went out and bought the puppy from a breeder who specialized in top hunting/working labs. This puppy gave them all kinds of problems including killing another of the families pets (a chicken, but I won’t hold that against the dog since both my Airedale and Cairn would do that in a heat beat). The problems were getting worse and more severe than the ones they had with Marley. They had to call in Ceaser Milan to straighten out the situation with the dog and them. Again the problem was them and their failure of leadership coupled with a dog with high drives that weren’t being met. Milan had to train the real problem in this mix and the problems went away.


8 posted on 10/21/2011 4:07:54 AM PDT by airedale
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To: 101voodoo
I find that German shepherds need a lot of obedience training and socialization -- maybe more than other breeds (but I'm not knowledgeable on doggiedom!)

But why purchase a 5-year old dog? Doesn't it make more sense to get a puppy or even a 1-year old dog from a breeder?

13 posted on 10/21/2011 4:37:03 AM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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