[xzins]

Kasich is making a terrible mistake. With a majority in the House and Senate, he should repeal SB5 and re-write it.

This version will be defeated due to a few things extraneous to his intent. (1) As this article says, he included police and firemen and he shouldn’t have, and (2) teachers are most upset about the law having “supervisors” evaluate their teaching.

The common joke here is that the supervisors will grant “horizontal promotions.” And it’s true. We have one in our area who is on his FOURTH teacher wife.

The other problem is that Ohio has too many phys ed and elementary teachers who choose to go into administration.

I know one math teacher whose principal asked her to show him how to figure out how many square feet are in the gymnasium.

They have people who avoided tough subjects evaluating those who they don’t have a clue about.

[edpc]

I don't believe the inclusion of police and firefighters was a mistake. The simple fact of the matter is they get their money from taxes. Something must be done to balance the budget.

The choice is clear: Include all public employees in the plan or face serious budget and/or personnel cuts. Ohio is one of the states getting hit particularly hard with long term unemployment. The tax base simply isn't there. Those still holding jobs and paying taxes won't be willing to go higher.

[traditional1]

"With a majority in the House and Senate, he should repeal SB5 and re-write it"

My sense is that behind the scenes, if the Republicans have any common sense, they should have a Bill ready for just the case of Issue 2 being defeated, and present the Legislation the following day.

Second, remove Police and Fire from the New Bill, and keep all else the same.

The ONLY way to combat the government Unions is to confront the issue HEAD-ON.

What Ohio needs ultimately to do is to make itself a Right-To-Work State, before any more public employee Union growth occurs (and it will).

[9YearLurker]

Evaluated by supervisors? Who often don’t have a good understanding of the work you do?

Sounds like it’s time to welcome the teachers to the real world.

(And as to the ‘horizontal promotions’, perhaps you should hop onto one of the Cain threads and talk some sense into the Cainiacs that the women who filed sexual harassment complaints against Cain 12 years ago aren’t necessarily the scum of the earth.)