Posted on 10/16/2011 2:06:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
I hope FR gets donations from all the disruptors
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they’re independent content contributors. :-]
One can only Hope
that if not already donors
that will Change.
:-]
(ducks)
Projection is a mental illness, OW. You need treatment. Desperately.
You betcha!
The vast majority of our members are good, loyal FReepers who always come through for our forum and Jim.
Primary Seasons are always rough and tough, and this one is not really all that different.
We forge on!
Take a Valiun and get back to us.
Which comment are you talking about Jean?
Buc, maybe you should take a break. I read, then re-read the quoted comment, and could see nothing that was either prejudiced OR racist, whichever term you prefer. Name-calling does not make your candidate look better. In fact, the more I read from Cain supporters, the more gratifying it is not be one of them. If you can tell anything about a candidate by his or her supporters, Cain would make a lousy president.
I guess you still don’t agree with your own opinion. You thought Stivers was a RINO a year ago...so you must like what Stivers has done in office since Jan 2011
In Jan he joined the liberal Tuesday Group and Republican Main Street Partnership(funded by Soros). http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2663144/posts
In Feb from the American Conservative Union http://www.conservative.org/a-final-vote-but-when/8712/
•Freshman Jeff Duncan of South Carolina tried to save $324 million in taxpayer funds from the Legal Services Corporation, a fight that goes back to the Reagan Administration. The LSC works with groups like ACORN to encourage lawsuits paid for by the taxpayer. The amendment was defeated with the help of 68 Republicans, including newcomers Mo Brooks, Randy Crawford, Bob Dold, Blake Farenthold, Chuck Fleischmann, Bob Gibson, Tim Griffin, Morgan Griffith, Michael Grimm, Frank Guinta, Richard Hanna, Vicki Hartzler, Joe Heck, Jamie Herrera, Adam Kinsinger, Pat Meehan, Alan Nunnelee, Tom Reed, David Rivera and Steve Stivers. Look for these names to show up on other crucial spending votes.
•The bill eliminates the longtime boondoggle known as the Weatherization Assistance Program which puts the federal government in charge of sealing up the air leaks in your house. This program was given tons of extra money by the failed stimulus. New York Democrat Paul Tonko narrowly failed to take this provision out of the bill and restore the program when 23 Republicans voted with him. They included Freshmen Lou Barletta, Rick Berg, Bob Gibson, Morgan Griffith, Richard Hanna, Andy Harris, Bill Huizenga, Pat Meehan, Tom Reed and Steve Stivers (see a pattern here?)
http://www.conservative.org/putting-the-brakes-on-spending-reform-republicans-listed/8722/ Stivers votes against cutting NEA funding
http://clevelandteapartypatriots.blogspot.com/2011/02/oh-has-4-of-10-most-conservative.html
While we may have 4 of the most conservative members in the U.S. House, it appears one of the freshmen Congressman from OH is already forgetting why he was sent to D.C.!
OH Freshman Congressman Steve Stivers (OH-15), in siding with the GOP establishment and helping the Democrats, was one of 95 GOP House members to turn a deaf ear on the voices that elected him to cut spending and voted AGAINST an RSC Amendment that would have made an additional $22 Billion in cuts in the Continung Resolution. Because this amendment failed the GOP led House did not meet their pledged cuts of $100 Billion.
Please contact Rep. Steve Stivers and remind him of “why” he was elected to his first term in Congress —
By the end of Feb the Heritage Foundation already hated him.
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/appropriations/146031-heritage-gives-failing-grade-to-some-republicans-on-spending
Heritage gave poor marks to {snip}...In addition, the think tank cited six freshman Congressmen: Reps. Charles Bass (R-N.H.), Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.), Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), Robert Dold (R-Ill.), Rep. Steve Stivers (R-Ohio) and Pat Meehan (R-Pa.)
In March 2011 the GOP(Stivers-yes) votes to expand Obamacare, then lies to the country that they are defunding it. http://conservativedailynews.com/2011/03/look-who-voted-to-expand-obamacare-on-030910/
Then he got a contribution from Mitt Romney’s PAC - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51011.html
In April when he caved on a government shutdown for $38.5 Billion in cuts.
http://arizonateaparty.ning.com/profiles/blogs/only-az-congressman-gosar?xg_source=activity
In July he continued to cave...House GOP Centrists Hushed but Not Silent in Debt Debate http://public.cq.com/docs/news/news-000003910196.html
“We should not default under any circumstances,” said Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania, co-chairman of the 49-member Tuesday Group, a coalition of Republican centrists. Dent said he gave that message to Boehner, R-Ohio, in a July 12 meeting.
New Jersey Republican Rodney Freylinghuysen, an appropriator, has made a similar case to other senior Republicans. “It would be inconceivable, if we didn’t do it,” he said.
Other Tuesday Group lawmakers, including freshmen Steve Stivers of Ohio and Michael G. Grimm of New York, said much the same during July 13 meetings with Boehner.
Then he voted for the Boehner bill http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2755973/posts?page=127#127
7/07/2011 H.AMDT.563 voted for Barny Franks Military funding cut ammendment
7/14/2011 H.AMDT.642 voted against cutting Dept of Energy funding
7/15/2011 H.AMDT.683 voted against cutting federal spending on energy conservation websites
http://issues2000.org/OH/Steve_Stivers.htm calls him a moderate conservative
It looks like a RINO to me.
May I remind you?
Brilliant!
It must confuse you that a Gov of a liberal state like Mass might have voted for a dumb idea from time to time...since your vehement self-rightous indignation changes like the blowing wind from day to day.
Now I get to see you embracing your inner RINO in defense of RINO Stivers. Watch out!!! A lot of Freepers and the forum owner frown upon RINO apologists.
Seriously, I have had a lot of fun at your expense, but I also enjoyed arguing with you, and I learned a few things researching Stivers. That is due to your tenacity and unwillingness to back down. It made me work to distill and fine tune my opinion. Thinking is hard. Reexamining what I believe is even harder. I think I made some excellent posts and I wouldn't have without your prodding.
We probably agree on 90% of the issues. You are a proud American who feels strongly about politics...So I don't want you to sour on Perry just because this supporter was a a**hole to you. We likely would have agreed on much more 15 years ago when I was shaking hands with B1 Bob Dornan and Dr Alan Keyes at my state GOP convention.
As I said before I will vote for the GOP nominee. I like Perry but I also like Cain, Bachman, and Santorum. I'll even vote for Paul...not that it will come down to that. I live in Wisconsin so I can vote for a RINO like Stivers. I believe perfection is the enemy of the good.
Thanx for taking time...a lot of time reading and responding to my posts. God bless you and your family...and you may have the last word.
tonight on Hannity , Dick Morris ( say what you will..but does know the GOP elite!) went on and on about Cain becomming Romney’s VP...oh, boy, heads will flip here when Cain announces...that he will be the VP of you know who. ha.
Rick Perry is the best of the field.
Perry has of the current field the best record of experience in governance and service to his country.
We should not use MSM standards to judge Rick Perry. Its exactly what the WAPO left wants to happen as it dismisses Perry outright. Yes Perry has conservative shortcomings in several areas of his record, on immigration policy for example, but he stands head and shoulders above all of them on governance experience and service to the nation and his sins are minor compared to Romney’s.
We shouldn’t elect a TV personna this time,besides, he often carries a Ruger .380 auto when he jogs, that alone earns my vote, LOL.
This says it all, Perry will beat the ass off Obama if he secures the nomination,he has nailed him before directly and has the balls to take Obama on face to face as a matter of official duty, unlike any of the other candidates:
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Perry is a good man, the best of the field:
http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2011/09/c130_rick_perry_he_flew_the_wo.html
C-130 Rick Perry: He Flew The World Before Politics
Abilene Online
By Sarah Kleiner Varble
Rank: Retired as a captain
Hometown: Haskell
Crew job: C-130 aircraft commander
Served in the Air Force: 1972 to 1977
Dyess AFB tour: March 4, 1974, to Feb. 28, 1977
His story:Way back before he was governor of Texas, Rick Perry had two choices as a young member of the Air Force.
He could either follow his dream and work toward becoming an instructor pilot in the sleek T-38, or he could fly the hulking C-130, planes that affectionately were referred to as “trash haulers” by Perry and his cohorts.
“There was no telling what you were going to haul around on any given day, from high value cargo like human beings to the colonel’s kitty litter,” Perry told the Reporter-News in a recent phone interview.
He wanted to fly T-38s, but not badly enough to move to Selma, Ala., where he would have been assigned. So, Perry chose to stay in Texas and fly the C-130.
In 1974, he moved to Dyess Air Force Base, about 55 miles from his hometown of Haskell, and began a career that took him all over the world and shaped his political future.
“It was one of the great adventures of my life,” Perry said. “I had a fairly pedestrian life until I was 23 years old.”
Perry could count on one hand the number of trips he had taken out of his home state by the time he graduated from Texas A&M University, but everything changed when he joined the Air Force.
Flying C-130s, Perry lived in Germany and Saudi Arabia. He flew in Central and South America, North Africa and all over Europe.
“I saw all of these different types of governments and I made the connections to how the people acted and looked, and it became abundantly clear to me that, at that particular point in time, that America was this very unique place and that our form of democracy was very rare,” Perry said. “ ... That was the greatest gift I received from my years of being in the military, and they really shaped my outlook on the rest of my life.”
Perry retired from the Air Force in 1977 — but not without one last adventure.
As his final days approached, Perry was assigned to a mission to “haul trash” to Bermuda with a relatively inexperienced crew.
“I’m sure the young guys stayed up a little longer than the older guy, which would be me at 26 years old,” Perry said, and they fell asleep on the way back to Abilene.
About the time the plane reached Atlanta, a fire light for the No. 3 engine flashed once. And then it flashed again.
Perry poked his co-pilot as the light reappeared and held steady on red.
Using the headset, he asked the loadmaster to take a look at the engine from the window and about that time, the engine exploded and blew a tail pipe off the plane.
“He started screaming that we were on fire and that we were all going to die,” Perry said. “The aircraft operated as advertised and flies amazingly well on three engines.”
Perry and his crew were stuck at Pope Air Force Base while awaiting a new engine. With three days left in his enlistment, Perry called the command post at Dyess and informed them that they would have to send a new pilot along with the engine if they didn’t hurry.
“I said, ‘In three days, I’m not Captain Perry anymore, I’m Mr. Perry, and I’m going home,” Perry said.
The engine arrived and the plane returned to Dyess in time for Perry to retire Feb. 28, as planned.
He went on to be elected to the state House of Representatives, agriculture commissioner, lieutenant governor and, finally, governor of Texas.
Hiya OW:) smart lady with a lot of insight. Have known you for awhile on our locale and NOONE can say you are not conservative:)
Very good!!!
Sarah Palin 2012 or bust
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