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To: Fantasywriter; Huck; catfish1957
Fantasywriter I have thanked you for your posts in the past and I think that you know that I admire you a great deal. I went on the attack against Huck in this thread because I thought her recent comments seemed trollish and were hurtful to all of our candidates which I think is counterproductive in this forum.

Huck has a history that I believe makes her valuable to this forum. She lived through 911 up close and personal. Most of us watched it on TV and although we still have strong visceral feelings about it; we still weren't there. It doesn't surprise me that she might react differently to Bin Laden’s killing as compared to the rest of us. I come into contact with a lot of people who are extremely traumatized and they have a wide variety of reactions.

I believe Huck is a good and reasonable person who like everyone else here who feels passionately about politics and her experiences. And like the rest of us here she enjoys a good argument and isn't afraid to make posts that she knows will get a strong reaction.

catfish1957 I am very sorry if my posts in this thread have been offensive to you. That really was not my goal. We certainly agree on most subjects. My goal when I look through someones posting history is to get a feel for where they are coming from, not to "stalk" them. Most of us are at least sheepishly proud of what we have commented on in these threads. You seem to feel differently and I shouldn't have egged you on.

In my defense I will say that over the years I have helped to bring a person or two to the attention of the moderators who were making contradictory statements in different threads. They appeared to be here only to stir up trouble and were eventually zotted. Often after a person is zotted they just come back under a different pseudonym and some of us find satisfaction rooting them out. On occasion I have been thanked for my efforts by the moderators who simply don't have time to keep track of every DU troll who manages to invade this forum. Technically however catfish1957 is correct this is similar to "stalking" game, although my feeling is that he was thinking of a different connotation. I don't mind people coming here and sharing a different opinion; I have a problem with them when their goal seems to be almost purely destructive.

I learned something else from this thread. After a certain period of time in your history all that comes up are the threads that you started not every post that you have left.

I am grateful for the consideration that I have been shown here. Please everyone have a good day.

337 posted on 10/14/2011 9:45:47 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

fm, that was a very good, thoughtful post. You made a slew of good points, but not one dissuaded me one iota from my prior comments. Moral Equivalence is one of the greatest evils, if not THE greatest evil, of the modern age. It is what enables the most hateful, vile and vicious people on the left to look at something good and call it evil, and look at something evil and (1) ignore it, (2) justify it or, (3) call it good.

I speak from experience. I have gone to the mat, a full nine rounds and then some, w people who are wedded to the concept of Moral Equivalence [as is Obama, btw]. These are nasty, hateful persons w a massive ax to grind. They hate the West, ‘western style Christianity’, traditional Western/Judeo-Christian values, etc. etc. Everything they say serves to justify anti-Christian values. No matter how horrifying an atrocity you point to as committed by Muslims or other third world or tribal people, they never condemn or even express concern over it. Invariably, the first word out of their mouth is to cite a mild Western ‘atrocity’ [usually it’s either a minor incident or else completely fabricated] and draw a moral equivalence. It is skin-crawling evil itself.

The same principle underlies the idea that FR = DU. The incidents cited in the post linked above [that FReepers didn’t sufficiently rejoice over Bin Laden’s death] are nothing—not even remotely close to being in the same ballpark—as the daily fare on DU. The pure hate, bile, vicious, lying, nakedly anti-anything/everything good about the West, Christianity, etc., that makes up the average DU day, would cause a normal conservative to want to vomit, then shower, then try to forget such indecency exists in the world, much less the USA. To equate the FR reaction to Bin Laden’s death w that cesspool of vile hateful nastiness/evil is not just OTT—it is pure, unadulterated Moral Equivalence. It disgusts me just to think about it.

Just typing this caused me to remember some of the purest, vilest garbage I have read on DU. Yuck; now I need a shower.


338 posted on 10/14/2011 10:19:55 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: fireman15
Huck is a he. Wait, let me check. Yep. Definitely a HE.

You know, like Huck Finn? Puckish, a bit of a rebel (rogue?), but still basically decent.

341 posted on 10/14/2011 12:43:39 PM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: fireman15
No offense taken, and sorry if I may have come across defensive. I applaud your efforts to rid FR of the disruptors. Maybe I thought that was the job of our moderators though.

Fregards... CF 1957

354 posted on 10/14/2011 3:07:33 PM PDT by catfish1957 (A politican with a heart usually means they have one hand in our pocketbooks!!!)
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