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Ex-Apple CEO Steve Jobs Has Died
ABC News ^ | October 1, 2011 | Ned Potter

Posted on 10/05/2011 4:50:17 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Vendome
Damnit. Knew it was coming. Good man.

I think it was pretty obvious that he was hanging on to life by a thread. I still don't know what ailed him.

RIP, Steve. You brought good things to the world, and lived a most worthy life.

141 posted on 10/05/2011 6:17:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tornillo

Gates?

Thats Easy. Steal Dos,

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_43/b3905109_mz063.htm

Ape Mac.
http://theoligarch.com/microsoft_vs_apple_history.htm


142 posted on 10/05/2011 6:18:38 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America")
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To: Kaslin

Thank you mr. Jobs for my first real computers, my Apple //+ and my Apple //c. You were a part of many people’s lives. RIP


143 posted on 10/05/2011 6:21:55 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: clintonh8r
He will be remembered as a business legend. He built an industry, not just a company.

When he was forced out of Apple, he went on to found two other companies, one very successful. When he returned to Apple, he took a company that was on life support and made into to the largest public company in the world by market capital.

144 posted on 10/05/2011 6:23:40 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Paradox
Not true, but he is a Giant on whose shoulders we all stand.

Oh but it is true. Read up on your history. What part did you think is not true?

145 posted on 10/05/2011 6:25:14 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Vince Ferrer

No, it would not have happened 10 years earlier.

The guys who created PostScript worked at ‘rox. They offered it to Xerox. Xerox management couldn’t see the point, since they already had InterPress.

So they went off and started Adobe.

There were networking pioneers at Xerox. They offered to ramp up ideas about Ethernet and local area networking - which at that time was only 3 Mbps - and Xerox management turned them down. Off they went to start 3Com.

I could go on and on and on and on. By the time I showed up in Silly Valley in 1991, there was no doubt in anyone’s mind that Xerox had completely bungled any hopes of capitalizing on their incredible technology developments from the late 70’s and early 80’s. It popular to hear among the PC fans that “Apple stole X” from Xerox and so on, but these same PC bigots also failed to NB that Xerox had “stolen” the idea of the mouse from SRI. Apple licensed the mouse from SRI, Xerox didn’t. The mouse as a GUI input device was patented in 1970 or thereabouts - well before the pioneering work in GUI’s was happening at ‘rox.

My first job out of school was in Rochester, NY and I worked with a bunch of former Xerox EE’s. They had very little nice to say about the management of Xerox. I later learned that the management of Xerox had moved their HQ down to Stamford, CT - because they didn’t like being in the gritty, industrial area where Xerox was built up in Rochester. These senior management idiots were very comfortable in Stamford and living the lives we’d later come to associate with hedge fund managers who now infest the area - fully 20 years before the first hedgies made it out there.

Into this corporate environment, Xerox brought forth PARC. PARC was filled with incredible talent, that produced amazing ideas. Most of what you see on your screen today or in your computer today has been influenced by PARC’s work. But in case after case, in everything from local area networks, to time servers, to file servers, print servers, (most all of client/server computing in fact), workstations with GUI’s, bit-mapped displays, Ethernet hardware addressing, the idea of a OUI in ethernet addresses, laser printers, scanners, page description languages... you name it, Xerox PARC invented it all.

And their corporate management in Stamford, CT let it all slip away. Why? Because they were fat, dumb and happy on the huge cash flow they had from a near-monopoly in copying technology in the worldwide business markets. Their cash flows were HUGELY fat and happy.

Their CEO in the 70’s and early 80’s were everything you’d expect out of an exec of GM - very lush offices, dabbling in Democratic politics, funding a thick layer of advertising on NPR and PBS, you name it. Oh, very posh indeed.

Why would they want to bother with any of those unwashed rabble out on the left coast?

Xerox deserved to get left behind. Their senior management was worse than incompetent, they were brain-dead, just like GM’s management has been for decades. Everyone played by the rules according to Hoyle and Xerox still controlled all the technology they invented, we’d still be waiting for it to be delivered to the market, and the state of the art in personal computing would look a lot more like DOS or RSX-11 on PDP-11’s than what we have today.


146 posted on 10/05/2011 6:26:36 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Kaslin

RIP.


147 posted on 10/05/2011 6:28:10 PM PDT by RockinRight (If everyone wants to ride in the wagon, then who is pulling it?)
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To: roadcat
You're wrong, and just one of those haters out there. You have no right saying un truths on a sad day. Steve Jobs is an inventor in his own right, with a couple hundred patents. How many do you have? I have personally been around Andy Hertzfeld, Guy Kawasaki, and others before the Lisa and Mac came out. Steve Jobs was very much involved in the creative design behind the Mac. Andy is a very smart engineer. Perhaps you should ask him if Jobs only marketed it! And he'll tell you Steve was a smart engineer too, and contributed a lot to it's design.

As someone else said, he was similar to Edison which is a great compliment. Taking all those smart people and turning them into a successful business is a talent all its own.

148 posted on 10/05/2011 6:29:38 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kaslin
"Why do you worry without cause? Whom do you fear without reason? Who can kill you? The soul is neither born, nor does it die. You came empty handed, you will leave empty handed. What is yours today, belonged to someone else yesterday, and will belong to someone else the day after tomorrow. You are mistakenly enjoying the thought that this is yours. It is this false happiness that is the cause of your sorrows."

--The Bhagavad Gita


149 posted on 10/05/2011 6:30:53 PM PDT by RobertClark (It's better to look goofy with a rifle, than civilized with an exit wound.)
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To: Aqua225

There’s something else about Jobs that has to be noted:

Jobs didn’t settle. Time and again in his career, engineers came to him and said “I can deliver X.”

Jobs would say “That’s nice, but that’s not all I wanted. I told you I wanted X+Y, and you’re not delivering Y. Go back and give me Y.”

And Jobs would then set some very aggressive time schedule to focus people’s minds on a product deadline. Time and again, Apple’s engineers would deliver on what Jobs asked.

There’s darn few managers, much less senior managers, in the tech industry who really do that. Most CEO’s don’t like talking to engineers, they don’t give engineers the time of day and increasingly (thanks to the idiot professors at business schools), senior managers just shrug their shoulders, call up some VC and say “I want technology ABC - what do you have that’s like that? And how much will it cost to buy into it?”

And then they go out and acquire some company for absurd valuations to gain a technology that could have been invented in-house.

Jobs wasn’t one much for going the “growth by acquisition” model that is so popular with idiots in senior management today. He told his engineers “I want Y. You *will* give me Y. And you *will* do it PDQ.”

And lo, his engineers would do just that.

That’s a leader.


150 posted on 10/05/2011 6:35:35 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

Excellent post. Good read.


151 posted on 10/05/2011 6:37:57 PM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/XX12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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Thanks Kaslin, additional:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2788486/posts


152 posted on 10/05/2011 6:45:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Windflier

Uhm, Pancreatic Cancer.....


153 posted on 10/05/2011 6:47:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Shows how precious life is. Cancer didn’t care a wit that he is a multi-billionaire and one of the geniuses of his time.

Excellent observation; wish I had thought of it.

154 posted on 10/05/2011 6:49:38 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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RIP. Way too young.


155 posted on 10/05/2011 6:50:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: NVDave

Hammer + Nail


156 posted on 10/05/2011 6:50:24 PM PDT by Hostage (The revolution needs a spark. The Constitution is dead.)
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To: NVDave
Xerox deserved to get left behind. Their senior management was worse than incompetent, they were brain-dead, just like GM’s management has been for decades. Everyone played by the rules according to Hoyle and Xerox still controlled all the technology they invented, we’d still be waiting for it to be delivered to the market, and the state of the art in personal computing would look a lot more like DOS or RSX-11 on PDP-11’s than what we have today.

And what if you replaced that management with Steve Jobs at Xerox? What if Xerox acted on the vision? That was the question I was posing. The difference between Xerox today and Apple today is Steve Jobs.

157 posted on 10/05/2011 6:50:58 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Kaslin
Simply a genius.
158 posted on 10/05/2011 6:51:32 PM PDT by CitizenReporter
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To: Kaslin
Simply a genius.
159 posted on 10/05/2011 6:51:43 PM PDT by CitizenReporter
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To: Kaslin

Talk about someone who made his mark on the world!

God Bless Steve Jobs.


160 posted on 10/05/2011 6:54:58 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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