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Herman Cain’s attack on Rick Perry was a mistake
The Daily Caller ^ | October 3, 2011 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 10/03/2011 8:46:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

After Sunday’s Washington Post reported that Texas Governor Rick Perry had utilized a Texas hunting camp named “Niggerhead,” GOP candidate Herman Cain (a former pizza exec. and the only black candidate running for the GOP presidential nomination) wasted little time in accusing Perry of being insensitive to racial issues.

“Since Gov. Perry has been going there for years to hunt,” Cain told ABC’s “This Week,” think that it shows a lack of sensitivity for a long time of not taking that word off of that rock and renaming the place.”

When anchor Christiane Amanpour pushed back — noting that the rock had actually been painted over — Cain doubled-down, saying: “But how long ago was it painted over? So I’m still saying that it is a sign of insensitivity.’’

(Cain made similar comments on Fox News Sunday — demonstrating that this was not a gaffe made in response to a question that simply caught him off guard.)

In a prepared release, Perry Campaign Communications Director Ray Sullivan responded to Cain’s attack, saying: “Mr. Cain is wrong about the Perry family’s quick action to eliminate the word on the rock, but is right the word written by others long ago is insensitive and offensive. That is why the Perrys took quick action to cover and obscure it.”

Sullivan reiterated that the rock had been painted and turned over, and that “The Perrys did not own, name or control the property, they simply rented hunting rights to 1,000 acres of the ranch.”

My take? Cain’s comments were — at best – premature — and at worst, highly irresponsible. It was a cheap shot, and, perhaps is a signal that Cain is willing to play the race card against a fellow Republican when it benefits him.

The fact that Cain spoke out so soon — basing his comments on a newly-posted and thinly-sourced article published by an outlet many conservatives believe to have a liberal bias — speaks to Cain’s lack of political judgment.

This isn’t the first time Cain’s penchant for talking has gotten him in trouble, but in this instance, Cain has aided and abetted those who wish to portray southern conservatives as racists. In so doing, Cain provides cover for anyone wishing to cast Perry as such.

Just last week, Sarah Palin noted that “Herb” Cain was the “flavor of the week.” By siding with the Washington Post and Al Sharpton — against a fellow Republican who appears to have done nothing wrong — Cain might just have proven Palin right.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; hermancain; msm; perry; perrywinkles; racecard; racism
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
"This latest "rock" episode is so petty, it tells me a heck of a lot more about the schmucks that fall for this kind of stupidity. "

LOL! Very well put!

241 posted on 10/03/2011 3:27:49 PM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
"If you think his debating skills are enough to not vote for him, think again. I just plain do not care. I want more substance than that."

You are so right. We already have someone in office whose main claim to that position was his "soaring oratory" (not my description, but the MSM and even many here said that)--and nothing else. We don't need another empty suit.

242 posted on 10/03/2011 3:38:20 PM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: MizSterious

What name did they change it to?

I believe you, although according to “Wallar Overton, the son of Mr. Perry’s scoutmaster in his home county of Haskell, said the hunting camp had always been known by that name.

“’It was just what it was called from Day One,” Mr. Overton said. ‘I personally am not offended by the name, and I don’t like the word.’”

This is from today’s New York Times. Take it for what it is worth - although at least one person - Mr. Overton - has agreed to go on record.


243 posted on 10/03/2011 3:42:27 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

They changed it to either “North Camp” or “North Camp Pasture” depending on sources.

Ah yes, the New York Times, we can always expect unbiased truth from them, eh? (yeah, that was sarcasm)


244 posted on 10/03/2011 3:54:23 PM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: MizSterious
I understand your skepticism. Except that “Waller Overton” has gone on the record with his real name.

You guys have been claiming that everyone who has acknowledged the vile name of the deer range has been anonymous.

245 posted on 10/03/2011 4:03:56 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Carry_Okie

Lots of questions arise, one reason being, no photos.


246 posted on 10/03/2011 4:32:27 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: New Jersey Realist
Boo hoo. Get over whatever problems you have. My forefathers way back were slaves too as a lot of people of many nationalities were

Who has the problem? If my simple statement of American history upset you then that is on you.

BTW, 'Roots' the story of American Blacks in this country remains the most watched television mini-series in history.

Can your story compare?
247 posted on 10/03/2011 5:30:48 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: lonestar

” Hope I didn’t forget anybody. “

Buddy Roemer and Gary Johnson..

Cain had a chance today to clean up the mess he made yesterday
and instead , he doubled down.
He could have told the media gathered outside of Trump’s office , after their sit down , that he regretted accusing
Perry of being insensitive to blacks
and humbly apologized.
He could have talked about his background and
why he was so quick to react, etc.
Instead , Cain denied that his remarks were about Perry
and then said he was done with the story.

“All I said was the mere fact that that word was there was ‘insensitive.’” Cain responded.
“That’s not playing the race card.
I am not attacking Gov. Perry.
Some people in the media want to attack him.
I’m done with that issue!”
“I really don’t care about that word,” Cain added.
“They painted over it.
End of story! “

Of course that’s not what he said yesterday, multiple times.
Unfortunately, the media is not done sliming Rick Perry thanks to Cain
giving what should
have been a blip of a story ,CPR.

Here’s the take from CBS-
“ Even if the Perry campaign is right about the story, however, it keeps Perry backpedaling as
his campaign continues to falter.”
“ Cain said Perry was insensitive for not acting sooner
to remove the offensive name from the camp.”

I’ll never look at Cain the same way after this.


248 posted on 10/03/2011 6:06:41 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
I’ll never look at Cain the same way after this.

Ditto...he cooked his goose.

249 posted on 10/03/2011 6:10:50 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: MNJohnnie

As soon as Perry knew about the rock, he and his family painted it and flipped the rock over.

Which, in your mind, makes Cain’s attack legitimate?


Today, I learned something about the person behind the moniker, MNJohnnie.


250 posted on 10/03/2011 6:54:39 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Jane Long

You ought to ask yourself, “Which of the Republican candidates is strong on immigration?”

The look up what you can find. You’ll be surprised to find that all our candidates are weak on it.

Except Bachmann... and she’s gone down in flames, lately.


And if all are weak, then why do you single out Perry? Should you not then look at all the other important issues and judge accordingly?


251 posted on 10/03/2011 7:01:00 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

To Perry supporters it’s okay if Perry trashes conservatives, but if another candidate answers a question about Perry.... They go basaltic. There is a word for that. It is called hypocrisy.

How a typical Perry Bot thinks...

1) Perry uses tax payers money to fund illegals in college, and then has audacity to calls all conservatives “heartless” that believe in the rule of law. Perry even doubles down on that statement during a nation wide Republican debate. Thus, trashing fellow conservatives.

A: Perry supporters defend Perry trashing fellow at the Republican national debate.

2) Then Perry goes to a hunting ground with an obvious racist name 20 years ago. A black candidate is asked to comment about it and naturally (as one would expect) he does not care for it. Cain actually spoke his mind instead of doing the old Washington Two Step. I find that refreshing instead of the usual B.S.

B) Perry supporters go basaltic on Cain for answering a question from the media. To Perry-Bots it is worse to answer honestly a question (that attacks your race), than to trash fellow conservatives (doubling down on it) in a Republican debate.

There is no question. Perry needs to go.


252 posted on 10/03/2011 9:48:42 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2787476/posts


253 posted on 10/03/2011 11:11:43 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Sprite518

A man named Waller Overton, who knows the hunting camp, says that it was always known by “that” name.

This is not an anonymous source - this is a real, life on-the-record source.


254 posted on 10/04/2011 1:44:31 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: fluffdaddy

Perry’s biggest selling point, to me, is that he will try and make Washington as small and inconsequential as possible.

And I like that. I’m sick to death of a government that coddles and nannies me whether I want it to or not.

Speed limit cameras, red-light cameras, seat-belt checks, TSA, regulations, government sponsored green industry, etc, etc, etc...

Government needs to just get the “eff” out of my sight. If I want or need it, I’ll ask for it; otherwise, go away!


255 posted on 10/04/2011 3:08:17 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Of course, he also could (and did) take care of it himself. Painted the rock and flipped it over.

You seem to want him to leave a problem like that for someone else to fix.

I don’t like people that, when they see a problem, leave it for others to fix. That really sticks in my craw.


256 posted on 10/04/2011 3:12:03 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Rooivalk

If we want to get into a pissing contest of suffering...

Lynching sound similar to the actions of the Czarist enforcers in the Pale of Settlement. I’ve heard stories of when their tax collectors came, the Cossack enforcers would place a wooden plank over those that said they could not pay... and then dance atop them. If they still did not have the money, more and more would dance. That is, until the poor guy died.

Then the guy’s property would be seized and the family tossed out to starve.

Not to mention the pogroms. Kristallnacht regular basis.

That was in the 1900-1910’s. My grandparents fled that as children... and then fought in WWII to liberate their kin from the death camps.

It’s easier to hide, for sure. But then, I get to hear the casual talk between friends, sometimes addressed to me, about them Jews.

Also, nowadays, there isn’t entire swathes of the world where, should you be identified... you die. The Arab world, well... Nazi Germany would be proud.


The point is that every ethnic, racial, religious group has had bad times. Most pick themselves up and do not wallow in their misery.


257 posted on 10/04/2011 3:35:06 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla
Lynching sound similar to the actions of the Czarist enforcers in the Pale of Settlement. I’ve heard stories of when their tax collectors came, the Cossack enforcers would place a wooden plank over those that said they could not pay... and then dance atop them. If they still did not have the money, more and more would dance. That is, until the poor guy died.

Sadly you post something about Russian history and think mistakenly that it has something to do with AMERICAN history.

And the pogroms of Kristallnacht are a product of Germany and have nothing to do with AMERICAN history

I posted a piece of American history that I have personal knowledge of. I really do not believe you have personal knowledge of these pieces of European history you posted.

Is there some point you were trying to make?
258 posted on 10/04/2011 10:37:48 AM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk
The point was at the bottom, blocked off by a line seperating it from the rest of the post. That you even ask means you didn't read it. I'll repost it for you:

The point is that every ethnic, racial, religious group has had bad times. Most pick themselves up and do not wallow in their misery.

Also, your post was about what you learned from your parents. Mine are from what I learned from the stories my grandparents told about their parents. (Mine you, I'm not 65, so there is an added generation between these stories.)

You're willing to blow off my story; so, I guess, I should act the same to yours?

259 posted on 10/04/2011 5:30:40 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla

You:"The point is that every ethnic, racial, religious group has had bad times. Most pick themselves up and do not wallow in their misery."

Fine. But explain how Black Americans are, as you put it "wallowing" in their misery.

I see Black Americans overcoming tremendous odds everyday and exceeding this misery you claim they are wallowing in. Herman Cain is a prime example of that

Regarding your story you mentioned situations that were examples from Europe. I still would like you to explain the relevance of events your relatives experienced in Russia or Germany to events I cited regarding American history.

I do believe the topic is American history and the participation of Black Americans in those events

And in my humble opinion I believe your incomplete understanding of American history is the source of your misunderstanding of what is being posted here
260 posted on 10/05/2011 9:54:49 AM PDT by Rooivalk
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