A Tea Party Conservative's Defense of Ron Paul...and His Supporters

American Thinker ^ | 9/24/11 | Russ Paladino

[Bokababe]

I want to state at the outset that this essay is not intended to be an endorsement of Ron Paul. While I respect and admire many of his positions and his fidelity to the Constitution, I have strong misgivings about some of his stances on national security. If you could hear the debates between myself and my 20-year-old son, a passionate Ron Paul supporter, you would readily accept the sincerity of my disclaimer.

That said, as the political season has heated up, I've been surprised at the tone of the discourse as it relates to Ron Paul. In fact, I can hardly believe what I'm seeing and hearing from my fellow Tea Partiers and conservatives. My assumption that conservatives are more thoughtful and logical than my emotion-driven liberal friends has taken a bit of a hit....

[Notary Sojac]

Not only do we have a 'credit' problem we have a 'moral' problem.

Can you point to any nation in history whose moral problems were solved by government??

[Notary Sojac]

you don’t want to see what it would be like no longer being an Empire

We're already not an Empire. An Empire would have nuked Mecca a decade ago.

[Just mythoughts]

Can you point to any nation in history whose moral problems were solved by government??

Our Founders stated that 'we the people' are government. BUT some of US got overworked, others got fat and lazy and collectively we have outsourced our obligations to hired rulers. Our hired rulers are bought and sold for a price to maintain their position of authority. Now wonder what will be the 'price' we all will pay for our hired rulers to legislate the redefinition of what God Himself established 'marriage'?

There is a real cost to 'paying to play'. Any American that deceives themselves that we became a 'superpower' because of our goodness/greatness are in for a super fall.

[KevinDavis]

He also supported Alan Keyes... In 1988 is left the GOP to run for President. He also left the GOP cause of Reagan...

[John D]

He also supported Alan Keyes...

I do not have any problem with Alan Keyes. It is all the other anti-Americans he supports like Cindy Sheehan, Cynthia McKinney, and Chuck Baldwin. Cut and Run is for anyone who wants to make America weaker.

[KevinDavis]

That is correct. We no longer have the oceans to protect us anymore. It has been that way since 1941.

[McGruff]

I have strong misgivings about some of his stances on national security.

Duh!

[bamahead]

It’s not only Americans who have pined for a benevolent, just master in the form of a ruler...

My Roman historian pal tells me it’s been going on for much, much, much longer (see tagline).

It’s just human nature. There’s really is a certain futility in trying to make the most stubborn among us see that it’s actually just a different color of subjugation that their advocating for. They aren’t capable of living under any other system than that of subjugation by a ruler who they believe ‘thinks like them’, and they will give that entity whatever power they feel it needs to ‘do their bidding’ with no realization that much of that same power will eventually be turned on them.

When I realize that futilty, in order to avoid going insane I simply retreat into another past thought from my Roman friend:

“Just to stir things up seemed a great reward in itself.” —Sallust

[stephenjohnbanker]

” It’s just human nature. There’s really is a certain futility in trying to make the most stubborn among us see that it’s actually just a different color of subjugation that their advocating for. They aren’t capable of living under any other system than that of subjugation by a ruler who they believe ‘thinks like them’,”

Brother, is THAT ever the truth!

Now a bunch of folks here want Christie to join in the fray
in order to knock off Romney and/or Perry. Then we will have

THE THREE STOOGES

[bamahead]

Outstanding post sir!

[bamahead]

Your statement has all of the reason and logic of your typical leftist arguement...merely with a different label. It’s really amazing you don’t see it.

[John D]

What was wrong with my statement? Did not the surrender monkey endorse those three anti-Americans? Doesn't Cut and Run want to downsize our military to the point any rouge nation could take all of our liberties away?
Paul's policy of appeasement and blaming America for every problem in the world will not protect us. It is a STRONG military that will protect us.

[rideharddiefast]

Has the surrender monkey ever done anything except talk, blame America, and stuff every bill possible with earmarks?

He pushed to allow gays in the military. While he has accomplished very little in Washington it seems everything he does do has the purpose of making America weaker.

[rideharddiefast]

But when Freepers spread lies about solidly conservative candidates like Paul, that's counterproductive.

Since when has Appeasement Paul ever done anything conservative? He may say a few things that sound conservative, but when has he ever actually done anything?
Blaming America, pushing to allow gays in the military, and appeasement of our enemies is not conservative.

[algernonpj]

... Think about the media's and two Parties choices for president in the last twenty years: GH Bush against Clinton: Clinton against Dole; GW Bush against Al Gore; GW Bush against Kerry; Obama against John McCain. And name me a single one of those choices who is a small government Conservative. Waiting.....

The only way that we are going to have any real choices is to force the Parties and media to open up the field. Otherwise we are going to be forced to choose between worse and worse. That's the way the GOP likes it; that's the way the Dems like it; so they can feed you any crap candidate that they want to. ...

I wish more people would get it.

The reason we are in our current mess is years of buying into 'hold your nose' and vote for whatever trash the elite of the RNC endorse.

[bamahead]

It really boggles the mind.

[upcountryhorseman]

There is no way a libertarian can win the presidential election!

[KevinDavis]

What has Ron Paul done in Congress to advance the conservative cause besides talking about it??

[wagglebee]

You seem to have very little faith in the ability of the pro-life movement to make its case.

I'm sure the libertarian Whigs were saying exactly the same thing 150+ years ago.

Do you think there are enough states to ratify a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to life??

The Constitution ALREADY SAYS that a person cannot be put to death without due process. All we need is for SCOTUS to acknowledge a truth that already exists.

[wagglebee]

Considering what we have now, that's definitely a step in the right direction. Some states will put a stop to it.

As I've already said, this is EXACTLY THE SAME ARGUMENT that was used the last time personhood was decided on a state-by-state basis.

The 14th Amendment (which I am well aware is despised by libertarians for a multitude of reasons) clearly prohibits states from declaring persons to be non-persons.

The libertarian approach to personhood was tried once before and our Republic was nearly destroyed as a result.