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Perry: We Don't Need to Elect the 'Smoothest Debater'
National Review ^ | Sept. 23, 2011 | Katrina Trinko

Posted on 09/23/2011 11:07:54 AM PDT by Clairity

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To: Clairity
Exactly so. We are not electing a "debate champion", but a President. Perry was given "gotcha" questions and the moderators avoided giving him questions where he could showcase his record and plans.

If the GOP nominee can't explain and defend his positions and policies in debates and interviews, he'll most likely lose the election. If he somehow does manage to win, he'll need to keep explaining and convincing people of the rightness of his policies - Bush failed at this and the Obama administration is the result.
41 posted on 09/23/2011 11:22:56 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: mwl8787

We all want a nominee who can defeat the Marxist Kenyan. I recognized that Perry was not that person long ago and, along with others here at FR, have been trashed for saying so. It’s good to see so many coming to their senses.


42 posted on 09/23/2011 11:23:08 AM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry = The Other McCain)
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To: mwl8787
In three attempts Perry has proven that he is not substantive on the issues, cannot think on his feet, and cannot string 3 coherent sentences together.

IOW, he isn't a good liar.

43 posted on 09/23/2011 11:23:08 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Many had the same certainty about Fred Thompson and we all know by now how that turned out. And we also know that conservatives voting for Ross Perot gave us Clinton.

As they say, those who won’t learn from history, are condemned to repeat it.


44 posted on 09/23/2011 11:25:13 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

Perry should work on his debating skills and harden his stance on immigration. On the otherhand he might give specific numbers on what he has done with state resources along the Texas Mexico border. Maybe he has in fact done more tha he has revealed in the last few debates. His immigration stance has lost him this voter.


45 posted on 09/23/2011 11:25:22 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Huck

quote “Perry’s record isn’t that great”

lol

that’s the most ridiculous comment i’ve seen in quite awhile. Almost akin to saying Americas record really isn’t that great.


46 posted on 09/23/2011 11:27:22 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Rick Perry 2012 ! Luckily we are electing a president and not a debate captain)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I didn’t know Perry from Adam before the first debate. Ignoring all the anti-Perry post on FR, I was willing to give him a chance to introduce himself to me, and show me what he’s got. After 3 debates I can say he has failed to attract me as a supporter. That was his mission as a candidate, and he failed.


47 posted on 09/23/2011 11:27:30 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Clairity
Karl Rove ain't gonna pick the nominee this time! Rove can get together with McCain and Romney and hold a party at Dole's house for all I care.
48 posted on 09/23/2011 11:30:34 AM PDT by Obadiah (Okay, so what's the speed of dark?)
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To: Clairity

Smooth he ain’t. Inept debater he is.

NO


49 posted on 09/23/2011 11:30:55 AM PDT by dforest
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Perry was much worse on foreign policy. He flunked the 3 am phone call, badly.

Perry might be the greatest president ever, but you have to get elected first, and we cannot risk nominating someone who is not sharp, telegenic, and articulate. What we’ve seen from Perry in 3 consecutive debates is totally unacceptable. He has been repeatedly warned to step up his performance. He has failed to do so, in fact, he has gotten worse.

It is regrettable, as well, because he could have had the nomination sewn up by now.


50 posted on 09/23/2011 11:31:00 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: Clairity

“”Perry was given “gotcha” questions””


I do not believe Perry was given gotcha questions. Perry knows his position on immigration, gardisil, and social security will be challenged now as they have been challenged in the past.

Perry did not appear that he had prepared himself well enough to answer these three issues.

It is not as though there are 500 issues where he is vulnerable. No, there are only three issues.

His campaign handlers do not appear to be helping him.


51 posted on 09/23/2011 11:31:27 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: NavyCanDo

If you want to find out about a candidate, you should look at their record and vision for the country, not just watch “debates” where a candidate is attacked by everyone and gets only “gotcha” questions from the mods.

Read his book “Fed Up.”


52 posted on 09/23/2011 11:31:50 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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If “everyone is bashing Perry” by asking tough questions about his record, then so be it. It might be a rehash for some, but for others, it’s entirely new.

After taking hits by pro-Perry folks in my search for answers about his pro-illegal positions, I’ve found that there are some out there who will rationally discuss his record and there are many more times that number who won’t.

For you pro-Perry folks out there, might I suggest that you take a different tack.

Instead of calling anyone who questions “your” guy everything short of the devil incarnate, endorse your guy by educating/informing folks who are looking for answers. Those who didn’t have the luxury of living in TX for the past 11 years to know what he’s been doing.

How has he impacted life in TX? Good? Bad? Indifferent? Why? How?

Substantive proof of his accomplishments are needed for many ignorant/skeptical folks. Not just “believe me on this” type responses or ad hominems. Defend him and his record with facts.

Consider me an “undecided about Perry” at this point even though I see negatives and positives about him. I’m trying to reconcile them, if possible, to arrive at a conclusion.


53 posted on 09/23/2011 11:32:01 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Clairity

Perry would receive rougher treatment from ‘moderators’ in a debate with Obama. And if he stood there with his thumb up his rear, as he did last night, the independents will conclude he isn’t qualified to hold office.

Obama will get 40+ percent of the vote. So will the GOP candidate. The 15% in the mushy middle will decide, and they won’t like someone who looks like he was just slapped in the face with a fish.


54 posted on 09/23/2011 11:32:01 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Clairity

LMAO - perry’s performance last night was vomit inducing.


55 posted on 09/23/2011 11:33:02 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: Clairity

His problem is that when he isn’t overly prepped, he will be
“authentic” to his own beliefs and say things like “ponzi scheme” and “heartless.” When is overly prepped, he stumbles and struggles to remember his lines.

That said, there are dozens of these “debates” ahead of us... an eternity in politics.

John Kerry (like Romney) was supposedly a Master Debater, but that ultimately did not help him.


56 posted on 09/23/2011 11:33:02 AM PDT by Borough Park
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To: Clairity

Remember. Perry was incoherent and he only took up about 20 minutes of a 9 person 2 hour debate.

Can you imagine him in a 2 hour debate one on one with Obama (and the liberal inquisitors)? It could get ugly.


57 posted on 09/23/2011 11:33:26 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: Huck
Perry's record isn't that great. His vision, what we know of it, is indistinguishable from the other candidates, and his ability to communicate is demonstrably weak.

Pretty much. If you can't talk coherently enough to make cogent arguments and think on your feet, then you might as well stay home and take care of the ranch.

58 posted on 09/23/2011 11:34:31 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Clairity

Energetic and wily Sarah Palin is NOT slow and lethargic Fred Thompson.


59 posted on 09/23/2011 11:34:36 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Clairity

Agree, Perry is the man.


60 posted on 09/23/2011 11:34:50 AM PDT by Logical me
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