Posted on 09/22/2011 8:06:48 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
Full title: Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal Immigrants
Perry's response was forceful and personal. "I don't think you have a heart," Perry told his critics.
"If you say that we should not educate children who come into our state for no other reason than that they've been brought their through no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart," Perry said. "We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that's what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature when this issue came up [there were] only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it today."
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I actually agree with you on something, Norm. Will wonders ever cease?
In State tuition is only granted to students who have attended Texas High School for minimum 3 years and have personally applied for citizenship. During their 3 years in HS, them and their illegal parents, like every other Texas citizen, paid State Sales tax and Local Shool tax, whereas out of state students have not paid a dime toward Texas schools.
Its unlikely any Mexican HS student came here on their own just to go the Texas HS for 3 years and then get a relatively small tuition break (the $10000 Mutt blabbed, exgerating of course, was for University of Texas, which is expensive and which damn few regular Texas students can get into because of grades). Mostly we are talking about smaller colleges and Jr. colleges, not UT or A&M.
Good question.
I’ve heard conflicting reports.
I wish I knew the real answer.
“Children of illegals” is an incomplete starting point. Are these “children” US citizens or not. If they’re citizens, they’re citizens and qualify for whatever other citizens qualify for. If they are not - they do not - and should go home.
Methinks Marlow is sounding more lib than conservative. He is all about the children but ignores one simple fact...
We currently have an operative immigration system in place rendered inoperative by people like him that think and act with heart vs head.
Since that’s the case and laws matter not, lets just pick another group based on our emotions at the time and act on that. But isn’t that just what happened in the late 30-40s when men acted on emotion and ignored law? Then just created new ones to suit them? Pretty dangerous road to go down.
No. I am violently against illegal immigration. But the fact is for the last generation the laws have not been enforced. We have to deal with that fact.
The Texas Dream act does nothing more than give children who were brought here by their illegal alien parents the same opportunity that we give to anchor babies.
IMHO it's no big deal. 99% of the children of illegal aliens living in Texas are citizens. They are "entitled" to the in State Tuition. Texas just decided to give the 1% of children without a country the same benefit.
I guess we could shoot them. There is historical precedent for that.
Politics indeed makes for strange bedfellows ;)
I was looking for a short accurate description of Perry's problems. You describe it.
“No. I am violently against illegal immigration. But the fact is for the last generation the laws have not been enforced. We have to deal with that fact. “
OK GREAT! then lets do that. And lets stop hampering it with laws (that shouldn’t even exist) that cater to helping them stay here at our expense.
Simple.
I don’t think I have a heart, either. You ripped it out Mr. Perry and squashed it in a Aztec ritual to illegal aliens. All you need now is drums in the background, some torches, and such, as folks swing to the song of your Presidential ambitions slowing walking down that trail of tears into a dark jungle. So the only question now is, can you be Surviorman? Will you eat a grub to survive?
Q: So you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
A: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.
I don't think we should give anchor babies citizenship.
But we do.
For the record, I agree with Norm and he considers me a PDS’er. So this isn’t Palin/anti-Palin fight.
As I pointed out to him in an earlier post here he is not part of the solution but rather part of the problem. Most liberals prefer to let their heart do their thinking for them and let everyone else figure out a way to pay for their hearts desires no matter the eventual disastrous consequences. His and his type of thinking is like a deadly cancer eating away at America.
99% of the laws passed by liberals in the last 100 years are unconstitutional. But they keep passing them and we keep allowing them to do it.
And of course there’s more. She also said we have a system and it needs to be used. She also said that the undoced would go to the back of the line and that means. in reality. they never get in because the LEGAL applicants of which there is an unending number always get to cut ahead.
And even more recent stuff addressing the issue but that pretty much covers it.
A kid going to public school typically costs more than $5,000 per year. Illegals don’t even begin to pay enough taxes to cover their children going to public school. If they have three kids in school that’s $15,000 a year, year after year, being dumped on the taxpayers. And that’s not including all the other public services they are likely to consume.
If the children are citizens, they’re citizens and qualify no differently than anyone else. If they aren’t citizens they do not. To allow illegal children to go to school is stealing from the community plain and simple. To reward people who steal from the community is down right wrong and provides and incentive for more to do the same.
Yes, we have had a word or two...;)
“I don’t think we should give anchor babies citizenship.”
I agree with that. Either the parents need to be citizens or they need to go through the legal process of becoming citizens. Sneaking across the border and having a baby should not make the child a citizen of the country who’s laws you have violated.
We feel the flow of illegal immigration all the way up in the NE, and it isn’t flowing down from Canada.
If Texas overwhelmingly decides to educate illegals at its own expense, and control the Southern border, would that not attract illegals from other States into Texas?
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