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To: newzjunkey

E-verify would never work without FED enforcement and deportation of those caught by it.


511 posted on 09/22/2011 6:51:49 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: All; TomGuy; comebacknewt; Leofl
I'll open with my observation/question before responding to others. My own observation. I'm having to watch this over again. I thought I heard someting absurd from Perry about the fence, and his preference against it.

Did Perry actually say "I want boots on the ground and aviation assets on the ground"? One time I think it was even "Aviation assets in the ground."

Shouldn't the aviation assets be in the air? Just askin'


TomGuy wrote:
E-verify would never work without FED enforcement and deportation of those caught by it.
Actually, it could work if it were privately run.

The enforcent has to be against the employers. The penalties for hiring someone who is not in the country legally should be so bad that nobody will want to chance having illegal(s) on the payroll.

Once you do that, businesses will find the method to keep them safe from those penalties. You don't have to mandate the method.

Once employers stop employing illegals, there will be no job opportunities and these people will go elsewhere (back to their home country, or to another more "friendly" country.

comebacknewt wrote:
Looks like the circular firing squad is out in force again tonight. Bash, bash, bash away at each other.

Newt seems like the only guy who realizes Obama is the true enemy.
I thought Cain did well, too. He answered all the questions, and he took it to Obama without saying much against any of the others. He did mention Romney's plan to tax people making over $200,000 while allowing people under that income level to be tax exempt for interest/dividends/capital gains. He didn't do that in a bad way (althought he should have avoided Romney's name specifically).

I like Cain. I actually cut the "Mc" off of one of my 2008 "McCain - Palin" bumper stickers. Though I would prefer Sarah at the top (and I don't think she'll run for VP again.

But Cain was also not allowed rebuttals when Romney mentioned him by name. The cameras weren't on him, but he should have been waving, pounding on the podium or otherwise getting attention and standing up for his allowed rebuttal time.

Fox was definitely pimping Romney. And he did extremely well, but you get confidence when you realize that the organizers/moderators are on your side.

Leofl wrote:
So if Gov Perry gets the nomination, you will stay home? So you could take another 4 years of the obamessiah?

We will never get a 100% candidate
I'm not 100% sure what I would do with Perry at the top of the ticket. Probably hold my nose and vote. For the primaries, though, I have this position:

Read my lips … No new Texans!

I'm pretty sure Obama and his campaign team want Perry to run against. Republicans might be misunderestimating the hatred of George W. Bush from the left, and the disappointment with him from the right (TEA party types). I have dozens of letters to my Congress critter from 2001 through 2005 where I was opposed to Bush and his massive spending and expansion of the federal government.

Perry's immigration position is too much a clone of George W. Bush. At least tonight, his accent and voice didn't sound as much like George W. Bush as he has in the past. But I'm watching the rerun right now, and his voice tones are still too "Bush-like." That also will work against him.

I think Romney won tonight, but I think Fox stacked it in his favor. I'll also say that if it's Romney vs. Obama, we're in for 4 more years of socialism, and I will probably stay home (or more likely leave the top line on my ballot blank), because I don't care too much which socialist wins.

1,765 posted on 09/22/2011 9:19:01 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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