Posted on 09/19/2011 8:54:44 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
As the debate over Texas Gov. Rick Perry mandating the HPV vaccine continues between Republican presidential candidates, a woman whose endorsement is coveted by all them, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, has her own complicated history on the issue.
In 2007, shortly before Perry issued an executive order requiring that schoolgirls be vaccinated against the sexually transmitted human papillomavirus, or HPV, that causes most cervical cancers, Haley was throwing her support behind a similar bill in South Carolina. At the time she was in her second term as a state representative.
State Rep. Joan Brady introduced the Cervical Cancer Prevention Act in South Carolina, and the Republican corralled more than 60 legislators, including Haley, to sponsor the bill. Unlike the executive order for which Perry is taking heat, this legislative mandate did not include a provision for parents to opt out of inoculating their daughters.
Within months, fierce opposition mounted, and legislative records back up accounts from sources who recall sponsors "dropping like flies" before a unanimous vote killed the bill on April 18, 2007.
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I hear you...
It’s pathetic how we get manipulated back and forth.
LOL!
I don’t have a candidate.
I do defend where I see distortions against the truth. And efforts to destroy everyone except Palin or whoever...we don’t know the chosen one in some instances.
I’m as honest as the day is long.
Again, repetition is the way we learn.
Rick Perry would have never, ever, done what he did if he had known that the vaccine would never be used in the mandated program because the people of Texas would quickly and strongly reject the plan. It is to his everlasting embarrassment, therefore, it is clear he believed they would welcome it and he believed it was the right thing to do to protect against Cancer in these young kids.
Exactly the same, Nikki Haley thought this was the right thing to do and would be publicly accepted.
Neither one, again to repeat...this is how we learn...would have done what they initially did it they had understood what would rebound back on them from a public backlash.
Therefore, I reject the notion that ill motives have been proven against either one of them.
To the contrary, Merck or no Merck...again, we learn by repetition...Haley or Perry, makes no difference to me, would not have done this if they had seen the future of it.
Period.
They heard the voice of the people and wished they had that hanging curve ball back.
Nothing dishonest about my posting of this. In fact, since the post has your name on it, it might just be the most honest, irrefutable post your name was ever on.
Then again we can’t be stupid and not realize that teenagers are going to have sex no matter how much abstinence we teach. It didn’t work on me, and I’m sure a few folks around here believe I’ll burn in hell for all eternity for it but that’s what happens when you are a teenager...
HERETIC!!!!!! BURN HIM!!!!!!
(sarcasm)
:-)
Merck had a business plan.
That business plan involved getting Gardisil made mandatory in enough states to recoup their R&D costs.
They threw a whole lot of money at a whole lot of politicians, including Republicans, and especially women.
If we are going to talk about mandating any vaccine, there has to be firm scientific proof that the risks of death or pandemic outweigh the risks of the vaccine itself.
The fact that the must-have immunization list has undergone a five-fold increase in a quarter-century tells you that drug makers are just buying their way on to the list. Too many of these diseases are not fatal or are avoidable by other means.
That is the REAL story in this Perry-Bachmann dustup.
This is the "finch" that you posted.
Derrrrrrrrrrrrr
EVERY governor during that time period was implementing Gardasil programs, having either already implemented them or in the process of implementing them. Merck was going to get money for the vaccines whether a state was trying to keep it at the local level with private money or if the state chose to use federal tax-payer money for Merck’s Gardasil vaccines. I don’t see how any of this, any state or any governor, fits into a “chrony” charge, REGARDLESS of how each state chose to pay Merck. They ALL were paying Merck in some form or fashion. These people need to start putting this all into a historical and contextual perspective.
Bachmann received $146,400 from the pharmaceutical industry over the course of her career.
Perry got a total of $28,500 in contributions from Mercks political action committee from 2002 to 2010.
Yeah Bachmann got paid to smear Gardisil over HER donors DRUG..WHAT A GAL.
I have spent a lot of time over the past few days reading up about Gardasil.
It is a vaccine most vile. Anyone who would try to force this dangerous vaccine on people needs a few doses of it themself first.
I have spent a lot of time over the past few days reading up about Gardasil.
It is a vaccine most vile. Anyone who would try to force this dangerous vaccine on people needs a few doses of it themself first.
Well said. Perry had every reason to believe it would be welcomed.
Gov. Haley's experience underscores the outrage is driven by the vaccine being against a sexually transmittable virus. If this had been a vaccine against breast cancer, it would've been received much differently.
I've offered the backstory before but it's worth repeating for those who may not have seen it:
In 2005, recognizing 1,100 new cervical cancer diagnosis in Texas yearly, with one-third ending in death, the legislature passed HB 2475 which says, "This bill requires the Department of State Health Services to develop a strategic plan to eliminate mortality from cervical cancer by the year 2015 " "The strategic plan must be developed and delivered to the governor and legislature no later than December 31, 2006."
A 47 page report (Acrobat PDF) called "Texas Cervical Cancer Strategic Plan," December 2006, by Texas Department of State Health Services in collaboration with The Texas Cancer Council was delivered.
Page 8, "Executive summary" Armed with this new HPV vaccine, we can achieve the moment when we know our goal eliminating cervical cancer death and suffering is in reach.
Page 20, "Access to Care" - "Women must have access to cervical cancer screening to eliminate cervical cancer in Texas. The National Cancer Institute reports that groups of women with high cervical cancer mortality:...
"Widespread vaccination is a key to reducing cervical cancer incidence in Texas"
In 2007, when he signed the order, there was just a single approved HPV vaccine: Merck's Gardasil.
It wasn't until 2009 that GlaxoSmithKline's vaccine was FDA approved.
There was only one governor who all by himself made an executive order mandating the shots. There is no excuse for what Perry did, it ought to be a huge red flag.
Pharmaceuticals/Health Products $146,390
Hey, can you share a link or two? I know little about the vaccine itself.
In my mind, the crony charge lies in the friendships, mostly. The guy who was Perry's chief of staff became Merck's chief lobbyist in Texas. There is some other worker/family tie, between the governor and Merck. Something like somebody's mother in law.
Perry can have mixed motives. I believe he is interested in improving the health of the people of Texas. But at what cost? (not just money, also in the sense of mandating a medical action). Obviously, he didn't expect the kind of blowback he got, and continues to get; but I'll bet he knew his EO would be controversial, and he may have deliberately been bypassing the legislature, based on knowledge the legislature would NOT mandate the vaccine.
-- These people need to start putting this all into a historical and contextual perspective. --
It helps to have an accurate history, when doing that.
Point of order, here:
It "causes" most cervical cancers, or "is linked to many" cervical cancers.
No, seriously, I'm asking.
Perry’s former chief of staff was a lobbyist for Merck at the time and a good sized donor to Perry.
Perry’s actual chief of staff at the time was the mother-in-law of the head of a group called Women in Government that Merck created to push Gardasil mandates.
Perry met with Merck the day he signed the executive order. They gave him $5000 on the day he mandated their product for all teenage girls in Texas.
Nope, can’t see how any cronyism charge came about there. No sireee Bob.
Hoping to preemptively destroy a potential presidential/vp contender before she gets started.
Another political party, one on the left, would see this for what it is: racism and sexism. But since that same party is the perp here, it’s just good old business as usual.
Meh. Let Carling pick her nits. If I changed it heron, it would be just as wrong, so it’s hardly worth it.
Plus, she’s just trying to get me to stop posting it. Not because of the name of the bird, but because she doesn’t like that it is an effective way of countering the dishonest arguments of Perry supporters.
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