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To: MinorityRepublican

Robert Goldman (Spengler) made a good point about Islam: it will collapse under its own weight as it meets modernity, something that it can no longer avoid doing because of modern communications and technology. Islam is anti-rational (which was the point the Pope tried to make at Regensburg, until the press sallied forth to defend Islam and confuse things). Islam does not believe that the visible world is predictable, since its all-powerful god is irrational, arbitrary and not even bound by his own laws, and could at any time decide to make the rivers run backwards simply because he felt like it.

Obviously, something like this is not going to be able to survive, and something that spawns the irrational, repressive societies that are Muslim countries is also not going to hold up against the demands of modern people, who whether they know it or not have adopted the Judeo-Christian belief in natural law and the dignity of man.

BUT the thing that is keeping it from collapsing on its own is precisely the West, theoretically its enemy. We shored up Islam in Iraq, we’re doing the same thing in Afghanistan, and the US has supported every one of these “Arab spring” revolutions which are essentially about the reimposition of sharia and full Islamic society in places which, while they may have been horrid dictatorships, were moving away from it.

Look at Libya, where Bambi has our soldiers “advising” and to which we are channeling money - and the new government’s announcement yesterday that the country will be run based on Islam and Islamic law. Same with Egypt and everywhere else in the ME. Islam would have collapsed even there if we had not shored it up.


31 posted on 09/13/2011 5:34:10 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

9/11 anniversary: The end of Islamic extremism is far from nigh
It is often described as the day that changed the world but, in fact, 9/11 only brought home to the West what had been simmering, and sometimes breaking out violently, in different parts of the world for nearly half a century.

At the heart of extremism is an ideology, a world-view – and not just concerning the perceived wrong done to the Muslim Umma (or people). Such an ideology expects Islam to dominate rather than to accept a subservient place in world affairs. It promotes pan-Islam and the ultimate rejection of nation-states, even Muslim ones. It may be that some extremists chatter about an Islamic state, in this part of the world or that; however, its ultimate aim is a single Islamic political, social, economic and spiritual entity.

For many, the restoration of the Caliphate is integral to this project and, given past history, we should not be sanguine that Western powers will not collude with it if they believe it promotes a temporary self-interest. Such a vision of pan-Islam is not restricted to the Muslim world as it is now but also includes lands “lost” to Islam whether that be India, Palestine, East Timor, South Sudan or the Iberian countries.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/september-11-attacks/8754961/911-anniversary-The-end-of-Islamic-extremism-is-far-from-nigh.html

Islam is not going to “collapse under its own weight”. They won’t change and they won’t give up. I doubt we can kill all muslims and I doubt we can change all their minds. I would settle for keeping them out of America and letting them kill each other in other countries.



47 posted on 09/13/2011 8:19:59 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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