Posted on 09/12/2011 7:14:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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The Candidates:
Michele Bachmann
Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Herman Cain
Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.
Newt Gingrich
Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.
Jon Huntsman
Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.
Ron Paul
Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008
Rick Perry
Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.
Mitt Romney
Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).
Rick Santorum
Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.
She cut her hair, she’s running.
I won’t vote for Perry either. I really don’t like him, at all. Don’t trust him, don’t like his record and he just rubs me the wrong way. The ONLY way I would vote for him is if the polls showed he could beat the Kenyan and I doubt that will happen.
By the way, you might try reading it, it's fairly simple, anyone with two brain cells to rub together can understand it. It never once mentions illegals. Anywhere.
Oh, and where does the Texas Dream act say illegals get special privilege over citizens? You want to run and look that up?
Good post and I agree with everything you said in it.
One of the cores of Ron Paul’s plan is to save a lot of money by closing military bases.
It isn’t just getting out of the wars, it’s the savings from closing bases.
I’m not suggesting anything, just clarifying.
Every politician is vunerable on the issue, if they have ever had to run for re-election. You are going to get money from people who like what you did. You are going to do things that make people who gave you money happy.
It’s just a fact of life. McCain tried to fix this by his campaign finance reform. I don’t want to go down that route again. Overturning Citizen’s united would help, but I don’t want to do that either.
You play with fire if you are a politician and attack others over “appearance” with no evidence of anything untoward. Every politician, including Palin and Bachmann, have received money from people who are presidents of companies that made money based on their votes. If Bachmann voted for tax cuts, they helped everybody who pays taxes. Palin pushed more drilling, and took money from companies who are in the drilling business. As someone else pointed out, she raised taxes on oil companies for taking a state resource, but not the fishing industry.
None of these are improper, but all could be made to look improper by a media looking to tear us down.
Having lived through this issue, the Dems launched a full investigation and the result did not please them. Perry’s office turned over 750+ pages of emails. The whole decision was based on the CDC and FDA estimates of the number of lives it would save. The Dems dropped it like a rock.
That said, Perry’s answer was stupid. He could have said:
Let me start by saying I truly appreciated your endorsement in my race for Governor two years ago. Five years ago I signed the bill that negated my EO before it ever went into effect, and admitted I had made a mistake.
Your implication now that my influence is for sale deeply offends me and frankly is beneath you.
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Nice post.
I’m sure the women who have contracted the virus, the unlucky women who landed the deadly one— would give a kingdom to have had that vaccine. The EO was wrong, wrong, wrong—Perry admitted it but that vaccine isn’t evil, it is a potential life saver.
Also, the $5,000 contribution to Perry by Merck...pffft! good grief, it is in line with all their contributions. There’s nothing special about it at all.
http://www.merck.com/responsibility/ethics-and-transparency/transparency/2010-us-corp-and-pac-political-contributions.pdf
Wonder what is up with Bachmann’s?
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00027493
I don’t want crony capitalism but are we going to say that no corporations can donate? With $5,000 as some possible cronyism infraction— I say this starts to looks like a witch hunt.
What happened with Solyndra, now THAT crony is worth burning at the stake!
Why is a Libertarian even at a GOP debate?
Are you kidding?
When would this be?
Polls will never show that Perry, but not Romney, could beat Obama.
You wouldn’t vote for Perry in November 2012 if polls showed Obama ahead?
If polls came out that showed every candidate beating Obama, you’d vote for Perry, even though you don’t like him?
That only makes a difference if you think the problem is suggesting that girls get protected from sexually transmitted diseases.
If you think we should do everything we can to make it hard for girls to get vaccines that protect them from sexually transmitted diseases, then I guess it would be bad that Alaska promotes Gardisil.
I had to miss the debate. Do you know if there is someplace online I can go to see the whole thing in replay?
Thanks.
“Approximately 20 million Americans are currently infected with HPV. Another 6 million people become newly infected each year. HPV is so common that at least 50% of sexually active men and women get it at some point in their lives.”
Does that count as “pandemic”, or is that “rare and isolated”?
I was pointing out hypocracy not wether or not the vaccine is good or bad.
again, that is only a problem if the issue with Gardisil is that taxpayers were helping to protect girls from STDs. If you think girls deserve STDs for having sex, then you’d be upset with Alaska for providing free and reduced-price vaccines.
So yes, those who are attacking Perry simply because the vaccine was Gardisil, and it’s an STD vaccine, should attack Palin because her state also gave an STD vaccine to girls using taxpayer dollars. Heck, you could throw in a “took money from the feds with strings attached”.
But if the issue is simply that he shouldn’t have put it on the required school vaccines, then the Alaska thing isn’t an issue. Of course, if the only issue is that it didn’t belong on the school vaccine list, that’s such a minor issue it doesn’t matter.
And if you think the issue is that Perry got $5000 from Merck, then the Alaska thing doesn’t matter.
But the Alaska thing should put down those who are attacking Perry and people here for “encouraging young girls to have sex” because we aren’t opposed to an STD vaccine.
Fortunately, while Bachmann made a big deal out of “innocent girls”, Palin didn’t. She went after the “mandatory vaccine” aspect, and Perry’s ex Chief-of-Staff getting a job with Merck.
I've liked Sarah Palin, but I heard her say that and found it somewhat unbecoming.
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I agree, I cringed a little.
Also, when Bachmann started telling of the crying lady--it reminded me of the dems and the false-teeth anecdote and Obama's constant telling of half-truth emotional tales for political gain. blah
What Sarah and Bachmann did tonight on Greta's show and Greta as well, was unforgivable and will hurt them big time in the future. Palin showed she has been a phony in her support for Perry. How sad that she could not be more honest, she should never have endorsed Perry if she felt this way.
The ONLY way I would vote for him is if the polls showed he could beat the Kenyan and I doubt that will happen.
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If he isn’t destroyed by republicans that can’t beat Obama, Perry is the only one I see beating Obama at this point.
He has the personality/charisma and with Obama, it is going to take that, too.
One issue is that a lot of the land on which the fence would be built is private property—and perhaps not all owners of private property along the border are willing to have a part of their property “donated” for that purpose.
The Texas border with Mexico is the MIDDLE of the Rio Grande River! It’s not on private land owned by Texas ranchers and farmers.
How would anyone build a FENCE along 1250 miles of border down the middle of a river in a LOT of rugged terrain, from El Paso down to Brownsville?
I’ve noticed several posts talking about the how the candidates look, so I wanted to add my two cents.
1)Newt- People have said Newt has a waddle, I agree, he needs to work on that but overall—pretty good.
2)Cain- looks good but I think drop the mustache.
3) Perry- he looks pretty decent but he is a bit stiff and awkward moving with his back. There was one point where you could absolutely see him grimace and move his neck. He is having some pain.
4) Bachmann- she is very stiff and she needs to drop sticking her acrylic nails tip to tip. Maybe a little less eyeliner. Beautiful woman.
5) Paul- he looks old (his hands more than anything), I’m sorry but it is glaring and nobody knows who VP would be before primaries.
6)Santorum- something too youthful and he always has this incredulous stare or something. It makes me think of that movie -The Waterboy-...I can’t picture him speaking to world leaders.
7)Huntsman- sheesh! where to start, I would rather slap him then look at him. Plastic? Soap Opera? I don’t know, just makes the hair on my neck stand!
?8) Palin- gorgeous, gorgeous but her constant change of hair color bothers me. Why? I don’t know...pick a color and stay with it! She is 47? not 16. The constant change bugs me and some colors aren’t as flattering as others but it would take more than hair color for her not to be beautiful.
No matter how many times you say a mandate is a tax, it still won’t be true.
If the government mandates that you wear your seat belt, is that a tax? If the government mandates that you stop at stop signs, is that a tax? If the government mandates that you send your child to public school, is that a tax? If the government mandates that you wear clothes in public, is that a tax?
If the government mandates that you take a free vaccine in order to be in the military, is that a tax?
How many examples do you need of mandates that are not taxes, before you stop running around saying “a mandate is a tax” simply so you don’t have to explain what your problem is with mandates?
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