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Mitt flier: Perry 'wants to kill Social Security' (being distributed in Florida)
Politico ^ | September 10, 2011 | ALEXANDER BURNS

Posted on 09/10/2011 1:47:27 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: jla; napscoordinator
How do we know you didn’t vote for the Communist Party USA candidate and then go to a gay bar to celebrate?

... and then have an abortion in the alley behind it?

101 posted on 09/10/2011 3:27:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: McGavin999

Now this is an issue on which to base a real campaign. Romney is toast.


102 posted on 09/10/2011 3:28:10 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma ( You cannot elevate Palin by tearing down Perry)
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To: napscoordinator
Because you know me and know I am not. Why is my question such a bad thing. The guy was a liberal democrat and loved Al Gore of all people and I am the troll.....sometimes you guys make absolutely no sense. Answer the question or f off.

Rick Perry started as a Democrat in West Texas (essentially THE only party). He served in the Texas legislature - was known as one of the "pit bulls," conservative members who sat in the lower pit of the House Appropriations Committee and bitterly fought spending increases.

Perry changed parties in 1989, joining Phil Gramm and other conservative Texas Democrats, who now had a true ideological party with a burgeoning Texas GOP.

When Perry campaigned for Lt. Gov. [1998], he and his campaign staff were in it to win and his hard-nosed style was against the "friendly" advice and request of GWB [in re-election bid for Texas Gov] and Rove to run easy against Sharp, a popular democrat (and Aggie friend of Perry's from their A&M years together). Rove wanted to broaden Bush's base for his upcoming White House run. Perry told them where to stick their advice, because he knew the voters would vote for Bush for Gov. and then cross back over and vote for Sharp (D) for Lt. Gov, if he just walked through the motions like the Bush-Rove team asked him to do.

Perry won the seat for Lt. Gov. -- the first Republican elected to that office since Reconstruction. Now 13 years later and into his 3rd term as Texas governor, the GOP holds a super majority. So Perry has earned his conservative spurs -- fighting both parties!

[The Bushes and Rove supported Kay Bailey Hutchison's primary challenge against Gov. Perry in the 2010 election too]

103 posted on 09/10/2011 3:29:36 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Interesting. Palin takes the time to explain what Perry meant, avoiding any attack on him, and Mitt pulls an Obama and tries to scare the old people.


104 posted on 09/10/2011 3:30:04 PM PDT by RefudiateObama2012
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To: napscoordinator

We know better than to feed the trolls.


105 posted on 09/10/2011 3:30:04 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: napscoordinator
All this Gore-Bush-Reagan-Perry business happened well over 20 years ago during a time of political change in Texas (and the country).

We need to fight the battle before us but it has occurred to me that Rick Perry (who later would become the first Republican, Texas Lt. Gov since Reconstruction) would have more naturally gravitated toward supporting a conservative democrat (which Gore was -- especially compared to the other primary candidates for the Dem ticket in 1988).

Despite being a Democrat, Al Gore did adhere to many conservative principals re guns, God, Life, debasing culture, etc. And he'd served in the military. Rick Perry has said he believed Gore was the best of the lot running in the Democratic primary, which included: Al Gore, Joe Biden, Gary Hart, Dick Gephardt, Paul Simon, Jesse Jackson, and Michael Dukakis. Perry said when the party chose Dukakis, that ended his belief that the Democratic Party could be saved. He became a Republican in 1989.

As for the Bushes, it may be that 25 years ago a lot of people in Texas and the south didn't see GHW Bush (son of a Connecticut senator and banker, who moved to Texas at the age of 24 and through his father's connections, was an oil millionaire by the age of 40) as a southerner or a fiscal guy (Perry has said he would not call GW Bush a fiscal conservative).

So it is not right or correct or fair to blast Rick Perry with the meme that "he stood next to Al Gore to repeal Ronald Reagan's platform." Rick Perry has always been known as a budget cutting man -- Democrat or Republican.

It's just hyperbole and spin to say otherwise.

And regarding my RINO status because I support Rick Perry: Years ago in Wisconsin, my family held a fundraiser in our home for Joe McCarthy. I was raised conservative and have been a life long conservative -- currently, a Texas conservative who cheers Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and all the conservative heroes building 10th Amendment backfires in their states.

106 posted on 09/10/2011 3:31:18 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: napscoordinator

Talk about not getting an answer, read how many times I asked for an explanation of this article about Palin and never got any kind of an answer of substance. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2776276/posts?page=284


107 posted on 09/10/2011 3:32:35 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma ( You cannot elevate Palin by tearing down Perry)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Where is the ‘line’ about him being algore’s cheerleader in the democrat primaries of the 1988 election.... Leaving out facts do NOT mean they did not happen.
108 posted on 09/10/2011 3:32:42 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Reagan Man

I know that is true that some southern folks were democrats in the 80’s, but they didn’t necessarily work for and support Al Gore. I think that is a real problem for me. Al Gore???? Of all people. Heck if he supported Bill Clinton, I wouldn’t be as disgusted. Al Gore? He is the worst of the worst. I am still praying daily that our only saving grace, Sarah jumps in. Again, I will not vote for Perry in the Primary....that is a fact. Michele will get my vote for sure. Michele will lose my vote once Sarah jumps in. If by chance we get another “hold the nose” Republican in Perry than I will vote for him in the general, but no way in the World will he be getting my vote in the primary.


109 posted on 09/10/2011 3:32:52 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

lol. I will give you that.....lot of dodging done over there.


110 posted on 09/10/2011 3:34:31 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

So you don’t know either what Palin was advocating? I have no idea.


111 posted on 09/10/2011 3:36:03 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma ( You cannot elevate Palin by tearing down Perry)
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To: shield

Wow. So intelligent. I am so impressed with your ability to answer a question. Thank God Palin people are smart. You as a Perry supporter should be ashamed. Are you ignorant. Alot of your other Perry fans are answering the question very intelligently. Why are you so ignorant but they aren’t. You are not going to win your argument being a stupid person. It is the PRIMARY you twit. This is the time to discuss and not your little dumb line.


112 posted on 09/10/2011 3:38:47 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Just mythoughts

#106


113 posted on 09/10/2011 3:39:45 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mitt is a liar and he can not win.I wish he would stop his under handed tactics because they do to play well here.BTW Mr Romney what is wrong with telling the truth? It is a Ponzi scheme.There is not trust fund it was spent by the politicians starting in the late 1960’s and the money now comes directly from your kids and grand kids.


114 posted on 09/10/2011 3:40:09 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba
....BTW Mr Romney what is wrong with telling the truth? It is a Ponzi scheme.There is not trust fund it was spent by the politicians starting in the late 1960’s and the money now comes directly from your kids and grand kids.

He'd rather we become evermore tied to the lie and higher taxes = socialism. His kids and grand kids are set.

115 posted on 09/10/2011 3:43:11 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: indianrightwinger

Agreed.


116 posted on 09/10/2011 3:45:03 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I believe that I for one am very nervous about this election. The reason is because we HAVE to get rid of Obama. Now we have talked for YEARS (3) to get a 100 percent conservative. I mean seriously I know that you have even been in the discussions. I am not saying that Perry is a RINO. He is a conservative. However, he is not a 100 percent conservative. I really want a 100 percent conservative this time for our first time in a long time and I thought until Perry who is probably more populous than 100 percent Conservative we were going to do that. This could be our last change to get a full fledged conservative. That is my only problem with this sudden Perry thing. We didn't even know the guy a month a go. We here knew he was gov of Texas but that was about it. I think the rapid pace of him being thrown in probably didn't help much. I was just hoping to have a 100 percent Conservative for once that is all. Especially because this election we can afford to have one because we will win regardless of who we put up. So why not put up the very very best!!!!
117 posted on 09/10/2011 3:46:08 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
For me, there isn't a dimes worth of difference between BillyBoy and Algore. But in 1988 Gore was considered a more moderate Democrat. IIRC, a pro-life Democrat, like Dick Gephardt. Perry being a registered Democrat chose Gore as his candidate. Again, not a dimes worth of difference between Gore and Dukakis. IMO. That is 23 year old political history and not relevent in the bigger scheme of things looking at 2012.

>>>>>I am still praying daily that our only saving grace, Sarah jumps in.

I still don't see her running in 2012. Besides, Palin endorsed Perry for Governor the last time around. THAT fact has huge significance.

If voting for Bachmann means purposely undercutting Perry and we get Romney as the nominee. I won't hesitate to vote for Perry in the primary.

118 posted on 09/10/2011 3:47:59 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: shield; Cincinatus' Wife

Hmmm, the timing of this might be good - since they will be debating in Florida this coming Monday night! It will give Perry a chance to explain his views.


119 posted on 09/10/2011 3:51:39 PM PDT by potlatch (Two Eyes, Two Ears, One Mouth - Use Them Proportionately)
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To: shield
Mitt's not an evil sort...but he is an Ivy League wimp. And they can be trouble...sneaky trouble!

Perry needs to drive home the point that this deal with SS isn't about current recipients and even those soon to be eligible.

This is about fixing or replacing SS for the long-term. And it's about removing SS from the greedy little fingers of members of Congress

120 posted on 09/10/2011 3:56:05 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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