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To: SeekAndFind
He never said that someone's final destination would be Mexico -- the author made that up.

With all the mandates we've been getting, do you think it impossible that the federal government might not one day say, "Hand over your guns and your gold?" And if that day came, what are you going to do? Hand over your gold (which might be your only method of buying scarce food) and starve? Shoot it out while trying to protect your family? No, you are likely going to try and leave the country -- or at least most people would.

Ron Paul believes that we haven't seen the worst of this economic mess yet -- that there is a real possibility of a dollar collapse. If that happens, there will be chaos and all bets will be off. Given his track record of predicting the direction of the economy so far, an economic collapse isn't as far fetched as it sounds.

I used to be for the border fence, too -- until someone brought up, "What if it was used to keep you in?" It made me stop and think. I've changed my mind. There are much better ways to deal with border.

17 posted on 09/08/2011 9:50:52 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

RE: “What if it was used to keep you in?”

The border fence is for the Mexican border, not the Canadian border.


20 posted on 09/08/2011 9:55:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: Bokababe
“”What if it was used to keep you in?” It made me stop and think. I've changed my mind.”

Well, if Ron Paul makes sense to you, I have to ask...What did you change it into, A cheese cake?

21 posted on 09/08/2011 10:03:28 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Bokababe
And if that day came, what are you going to do? Hand over your gold (which might be your only method of buying scarce food) and starve? Shoot it out while trying to protect your family? No, you are likely going to try and leave the country -- or at least most people would.

Sabotage, IEDs, ambushes, oh my!
Sabotage, IEDs, ambushes, oh my!
Sabotage, IEDs, ambushes, oh my!

26 posted on 09/08/2011 10:09:40 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Bokababe
I used to be for the border fence, too -- until someone brought up, "What if it was used to keep you in?" It made me stop and think. I've changed my mind. There are much better ways to deal with border.

Tell me when they start talking about fencing off Canada and the east and west coasts, then I'll start to worry.

27 posted on 09/08/2011 10:10:43 AM PDT by DejaJude (Obama - in over his head and above his pay grade.)
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To: Bokababe
I used to be for the border fence, too -- until someone brought up, "What if it was used to keep you in?" It made me stop and think. I've changed my mind. There are much better ways to deal with border.

Your position is illogical. The Canadian border is open and we have larg coastlines. Mexico is in a virtual civil war. And the stream of invaders is one of the major reasons for our instability.
37 posted on 09/08/2011 10:37:19 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Bokababe

Indeed. Fences control people - in both directions. People who want to control other people may make use of the tool in ways it was not intended. As the parasites grow in number, they may object to the sustaining host leaving and insist he stay, enacting laws ensuring nobody leaves without permission and with “taxable” (confiscatable) wealth.

Doctor: “I wish to not be compelled to provide un-compensated services, so I shall leave.”
Dictator: “We need your kind here. You’re not leaving.”
Doctor: “No, I shall gather my remaining wealth into compact form and walk out.”
Dictator: “You’re not going thru a gate in the fence without permission and without giving up that wealth which we hereby confiscate per your dissension.”

It’s happened before, people. Fences intended to keep people out have also been used to keep people in. Governments need subjects, especially wealthy/capable ones, and when they start leaving in significant numbers fences are used to retain them.

Yeah, it sounds stupid at first. A lot of people escaping have died trying to cross the tyrant’s fence.


41 posted on 09/08/2011 10:56:00 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Bokababe

Do you know the difference? We have guns. And we’ll use them.

And you damn right I’ll shoot it out if that is what it takes. Just like millions upon millions of others. And no military is going to shoot at us.

If anything, they’ll join us.


59 posted on 09/08/2011 9:58:39 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm done with political parties. The GOP is useless. Anarchy is preferable to this CRAP!)
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