Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

With Allegiance with Pakistan at Lowest Point, U.S. Should Shift Support to India.
blogcritics.org ^ | Sep 07, 2011 at 1:50 am | John Lake

Posted on 09/07/2011 10:59:23 AM PDT by ravager

United States Senator Mark Kirk just completed a two week tour of duty as a U.S. Naval Reserve Intelligence Commander in Afghanistan. He says what he saw during that tour was of major importance, and feels strongly that continued aid to Pakistan “Seems naive at best and counter-productive at worst. I am seriously reconsidering and rethinking how well aid to Pakistan serves us."

The Pakistan government is providing “tremendous support” for a terror organization that operates on both sides of the Afghan/Pakistan border, and is a principle threat to our soldiers, and to the legitimate Afghan government. Kirk accuses Pakistan of duplicity and lying about support for the Taliban affiliated Haqqani Network, named for the organization’s grand master Jalaluddin Haqqani, who some feel may have surpassed Mullah Omar as the Taliban supreme leader. It is generally agreed that Jalaluddin Haqqani’s son, thirty year old Siraj, who may now hold the highest prominence.

In the past six months, the “mysterious and highly dangerous” Haqqani Network has carried out three of the four most spectacular terror attacks in Afghanistan. The Haqqani Network, held together by tribal and clan relationships, is based in the village of Dande Darpa Khel near North Waziristan, in a mountainous region of Pakistan; Zambar village in the Sabari district in Khost, Afghanistan, is the operations hub. Jalaluddin Haqqani, now elderly, once believed dead, was a recipient of U.S. aid during the Soviet-Afghan war of the 1980’s, as a leader in the fight against Soviet forces. The aid at that time was in the form of assistance from the CIA, through the ISI (Pakistan Inter-Services Intelligence.) Jalaluddin Haqqani now dominates several eastern Pakistani provinces.

Senator Kirk in a speech to the Union League Club of Chicago charged that the militant Haqqani Network is backed and protected by the ISI, which is Pakistan’s powerful spy agency. "Let me be clear: many Americans died in Afghanistan because of Pakistan's ISI." Senator Kirk feels it is time to rethink "counter-productive" U.S. aid to Islamabad. "Pakistan has become the main threat to Afghanistan. Pakistan's Intelligence Service is the biggest danger to the Afghan government. It is also a tremendous threat to the lives of American troops." said Kirk. Senator Kirk calls the Haqqani Network, “The most dangerous, lethal and cancerous force in Afghanistan.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bloggersandpersonal; india; pakistan; wot

1 posted on 09/07/2011 10:59:29 AM PDT by ravager
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: ravager

I understand sympathy for pulling Pak support, given their behavior and alliance w China.
Our rapport w India is just fine, without providing an aid element to a Russian ally.


2 posted on 09/07/2011 11:03:21 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: G Larry

India is a Russian ally ONLY because of US support to Pakistan and for no other reason.


3 posted on 09/07/2011 11:07:14 AM PDT by ravager
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: G Larry

Beside India never asked for aid. Whatever “aid” there was to be given, has already been given to Pakistan to build the military parity with India. India has very good reason to ally with Russia.


4 posted on 09/07/2011 11:10:51 AM PDT by ravager
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ravager

Personally, I am in favor of “reaching out” to Pakistan to the maximum degree possible. In fact, I’d even like to give them nuclear weapons.

(If you know what I mean, and I think you do.)


5 posted on 09/07/2011 11:12:16 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ravager

The real consideration, is how do we supply our troops in Aghanistan without Pakistan?


6 posted on 09/07/2011 11:13:12 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nervous Tick

ah...! Give them, ok..!

Ya mean using a really toute-de-suite method?


7 posted on 09/07/2011 11:15:52 AM PDT by gaijin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: americanophile

The real consideration should have been, how to supply troops INTO Pakistan? Answer: India would have gladly helped. However that ship has long sailed ever since.


8 posted on 09/07/2011 11:18:32 AM PDT by ravager
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: gaijin

When it comes to foreign policy, I am a big fan of giving “to each according to its need”. Simply giving away taxpayer money isn’t always the answer, y’know? Sometimes overnighting them fissile material is best.


9 posted on 09/07/2011 11:21:04 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: ravager

Long since; a nuclear nation of almost 190 million Muslims, with a median male age of 21, doesn’t exactly make for a wise target.


10 posted on 09/07/2011 11:22:47 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ravager

Pakistan is a failed state. Its like insisting on remaining good friends with the neighborhood druggie because he might be able to tell you if your house would get burgled by someone he knows.

India is on its way up - Pakistan on its way down.


11 posted on 09/07/2011 11:27:32 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: americanophile
The real consideration, is how do we supply our troops in Aghanistan without Pakistan?

Through what used to be Iran, silly.

12 posted on 09/07/2011 11:29:07 AM PDT by null and void (Day 956 of America's holiday from reality...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: americanophile

In future US and India may well have to fight them anyways. And in future they will have more people and more nukes.


13 posted on 09/07/2011 11:34:28 AM PDT by ravager
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: null and void; americanophile
Through what used to be Iran, silly.

Of course. Just build a highway from Arco or Chevron through New Texas.


14 posted on 09/07/2011 1:14:14 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Nervous Tick

I dunno what EXXON would be doing in Pakistan. They dont have oil.


15 posted on 09/07/2011 1:51:59 PM PDT by ravager
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: ravager

>> I dunno what EXXON would be doing in Pakistan. They dont have oil.

They drew the short straw.


16 posted on 09/07/2011 2:00:45 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Nervous Tick
And the Taliban has a special dislike for oil pipelines and gasoline trucks.
17 posted on 09/07/2011 2:39:56 PM PDT by ravager
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: americanophile

we supply it through Russia, but we get India to send more troops while we cut back. We can provide logistics etc. but the Indians have great relations with the Russians,Tajiks, Uzbeks etc — they can move troops with no issue


18 posted on 09/08/2011 3:56:30 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Cronos

Russia?! Ah...not likely friend.


19 posted on 09/08/2011 2:54:12 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson