Posted on 09/01/2011 5:54:33 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Authorities say a Philadelphia woman found dead in her home had been fatally mauled by her own dogs.
Autopsy results were released Thursday on 50-year-old Carmen Ramos.
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Maybe I’ll buy my ex a couple of pit pups as a gift.
What sort of idiots would return dogs to the same situation from which they previously attacked people?
There is something in mature pit bulls that are not fixed
Bingo. It usually hits at about 1.5 to 2 years and the dog is out of control. Add a 20 something male owner and you have a very bad situation. I just had a confrontation with a kid in my dog park who wanted to lecture me about the breed because he was offended that I was removing my dogs from the threat that his presented. In his mind I was obligated to keep my dogs there to "play" with his intact pit, otherwise I was "racist".
One could use these circumstances to argue that the owner drives the behaviour of the dog. But there have been many quite decent folks who have lost control of pits as well as idiots like the one I encountered. When I meet a well mannered pit neutered or not who is 6 to 8 years with a verifiable record of good behavior, I am pretty comfortable with them. If they are younger than that, I do not trust them one little bit.
It isn’t the breed. It’s the owners, other animals and small children who tempt them to be so violent!
You also say that in all your years of dog training, you've only seen a "small percentage" that are the real problem.
My point is that with the breed of pit bull, that "small percentage" increases exponentially. When you choose a dog to keep as a pet that has been historically bred to fight tenaciously, you can't sweep the risk of attack under the rug.
As for me, I would never allow a pit bull anywhere near me or my family. The risk may actually quite miniscule in the grand scheme of things, but it's a risk I CAN CONTROL AND REFUSE TO MAKE.
SIDENOTE: I'm not for banning the breed, however. There are too many loyal and loveable pit bulls that never harm anyone. But it's a Buyer's Beware market. I won't own one, and I'll never knowingly go on a hike in Grizzly bear country without a gun. :^)
All the best to you too!
A dog park allows an intact male? Huh?
Yep I know is sounds odd. But it is an unattended park that the police dept hates. We are so on our own there. Rules are posted but neutering is not one of them. So we have to roll with what we have.
People regularly drop dogs off that are no longer wanted via drive by and we find homes for most of them. Nothing is by the book and most is seat of the pants. We just do what needs doing.
I love pit bulls,they make great moving targets.
Oh, that’s awful.
I don’t go to the one here b/c it’s way across town and I live right by a PetSmart with playday, but I think they make you get a key fob for entrance after you apply to the park service with documentation of shots and fixin’.
... and thank you for an level headed response. It’s getting rarer these days in both dog breed discusion and politics. lol
Anyway, the size of the dog is only partially relavant to the potential damage it can do to a human. A small breed that is in a highly agressive state can easily rip apart a child, and sometimes is more of a threat because people think, “It’s just a little dog.” A crazed Chiuhuahua could easily be as much of a threat to a fmily as a 200# English Mastiff (which would probably be very little threat).
If you’ve ever whatched the Dog Whisperer, he is right on the money in almost 100% of the cases we see on the show. It’s almost always the way the dog is raised and handled by the owners.
Picking a (precieved) loving breed (like a Golden Retriever) is no protection against dog aggression if the dog is left to its own devies. It will assume the alpha role (becuase no one else does) even if it is not a particularly dominant dog. That is just the way dogs are.
El Premio de los Darwin.
Poor doggy!
It’s not the dog, it’s the owner.
Aim for the owner.
That sounds like one of my co-workers!What is your area?
Thanks for your balanced commentary. As has been said ANY breed can be vicious; the only two dogs that ever attacked me were a chiuaha & a 5 lb teacup poodle. If they’d had their way I’d be in pieces.
On behalf of the breed, which I like very much, may I say that I wish it had been Michael Vick on the floor
That fairy tale still being circulated by the pit bull propagandists?
You need to find a more gullible audience.
I’ve always thought dog parks were a bad idea. There is nothing to stop an agressive dog from attacking another dog or a person at these places. Dogs are not children. They sometimes like to play with other dogs, but most prefer to be with people. Often dogs are bullied or intimidated by other dogs and don’t enjoy being in groups of other dogs at all.
With the recent increase in the times that large numbers of dogs are together in doggie day care, dog parks, and boarding facilities, there may also be an increase in the number of communicable diseases in dogs. Something to think about.
“Well bred pitbulls...”
What qualifies as “well bred?” Most of the pitbulls I’ve seen were ill-bred, as inner-city, watch/fight/protection dogs...and often very mistreated, for generations.
I’m sure you’re correct, some carefully bred pits are fine....however speaking of “well bred” pits is a bit like talking about “moderate Islam”... more or less a contradiction of terms.
LOL
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