Both of those.
And while we agree on some points, I tell you now, without malice, that if you come to me with statements like this:
"It is also true that states could not afford to wage a real war on drugs if they didnt have the help of the Feds in waging it."
you should be prepared to back them up with facts and well reasoned arguments. If you are not prepared to defend that statement as objectively defensible truth, do not present it to me as such.
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Dont drag me into a semantic mess thats got drug legalization conflated with ending the federal drug war and where nobody involved understands the difference or cares that there is one.
See? You're the only one that viewed it as a semantic mess. If you're going to engage in two distinct arguments then it's no wonder you are getting confused.
That’s all these libertarian fools have is assumptions. They base their statements on what they believe will happen and ignore what history has already shown us. This whole argument is an exercise wasted time.
Teaching a libertarian or liberal to use logic is like trying to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.