Posted on 09/01/2011 9:03:00 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
Two and a half minutes.
That is the time it took for several armed men to storm a casino in northern Mexico, order the patrons to get out and torch the place with gasoline. Fifty-two people died in the blaze, mostly women and senior citizens who enjoyed playing bingo.
The daylight attack at the Casino Royale happened a week ago in Monterrey, Mexico. It was the worst attack on civilians since the massacre of 72 migrants last year.
...The United States shares responsibility for the thousands of people dead, injured and displaced in the five-year drug war that Mexican President Felipe Calderon has launched against the drug cartels. But we seem to ignore the connection between the high demand for illegal drugs and the violence associated with drug trafficking — not only in Mexico but in cities such as Los Angeles, New York and Chicago.
The connection is crystal clear: The U.S. represents a yearly $39 billion market for the drug cartels because an estimated 25 million Americans — 12 and older — consume some type of illegal drug, according to the Justice Department.
(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...
How exactly is he trying to overturn our country by sedition or trying to bring a foreign form of government? ....Ever hear of the platform of La Raza?
The drug lords in Mexico would kill American citizens to gain top dog status? How exactly do you figure? They're going to waste ammo on Americans that haven't done anything to them to prove how tough they are?
Even if they made them legal in both countries the drug lords and manufacturers would be fighting like animals to be the king of the hill.
Fighting over what? While I'm sure some of them would switch to other crimes, like kidnapping for ransom (which they already do sometimes), that is easier to deal with than smuggled drugs. Still, we wouldn't have the gangs here in America shooting each other in the street over drug turf. Do we have any tobacco wars? How about alcohol wars? Have you ever heard of Budweiser employees killing Miller employees? Me neither.
What does the author have to do with La Raza? Yes, I’ve heard of them. Yes, I’ve heard of Reconquista. What does that have to do with the thread?
I really like that picture. Those who support the WOD should not be surprised when their guns are confiscated in the name of fighting it. The Assault Weapons Ban was directly attributable to the WOD. How many stories were told about drug dealers killing police with automatic weapons, despite the fact that automatic weapons were already heavily regulated? Nah, they used the drug war as an excuse to ban guns that were simply “scary-looking.”
You really believe that if drugs are legal, it will take the profit margin out of them when it concerns the people who deal drugs? The gangs and criminals will still make money. It won’t stop them one bit. You’re fooling yourself with that idea. Prohibition of alcohol has been repealed since the 20s yet there are still people making illegal moonshine and selling it.
The idea it will make drug gangs go away is a fairy tale. Just as it didn’t make crime go away in Amsterdam. Now Amsterdam has realized the ignorance of their ways and are prohibiting the sale of drugs to tourists.
They are shooting Americans now who aren’t doing anything. You obviously know little about the motivations of criminals. Put down the bong and open your eyes to the real world.
What about the children though? Aren’t you basically advocating giving heroin to two years olds? Do you want to stick it in their elementary-school issued condoms, killing two birds with one stone? It is hardly conservative to advocate giving heroin to two year olds. No, we must re-double our efforts, hire more police, and get serious about this DRUG PROBLEM. Let’s eliminate the warrant requirement, so cops can bust down any door they want and claim probable cause. Let’s immunize officers from civil liability for intentional torts. Let’s have the death penalty for a marijuana grower who gives some to his friend. Time to get real SERIOUS.
Power.
I never say anything in jest. Except for that last sentance. And that one. And that one. And that one. And that one.
They would switch 100% to moving people. Since they got in the people business the model has changed. There are a lot more kidnapping of illegals once they are in the U.S. They are brought across the border and held at a flop house until more money can be extorted from family members still in Mexico.
As far as blaming the WOD for everything in Mexico, one should compare it to the turf battles in America. Even at its worst, the turf battles over crack in the 80's and 90's were nothing compared to what is happening in Mexico. I don't remember whole police forces being wiped out and heads being chopped off.
The truth is that drugs are the commodity, but the violence is in part a product of the Mexican society.
You think that drug dealers would be able to compete on a level playing field with pharmaceutical corporations that could produce drugs for 5-10% of the black market price? How exactly? The only reason they're so profitable with their drug endeavors is because they are willing to take the risks of being jailed or killed in order to make enormous profits. Moonshine is a separate issue. People are making moonshine to avoid the whiskey taxes.
Please get back to me when you take a basic microeconomics course that covers supply and demand.
The idea it will make drug gangs go away is a fairy tale. Just as it didn’t make crime go away in Amsterdam. Now Amsterdam has realized the ignorance of their ways and are prohibiting the sale of drugs to tourists.
Amsterdam doesn't have legalized drugs. They allow possession and use in private (either in a home or in a coffee shop), but they still have penalties for drug dealing and trafficking. So does Portugal for that matter, but they aren't backing off their experiment. Portuguese youth use drugs at lower rates than American youth, especially harder drugs.
They are shooting Americans now who aren’t doing anything. You obviously know little about the motivations of criminals. Put down the bong and open your eyes to the real world.
I haven't used marijuana here since college. It's a classic attack tactic to smear those who are against the WOD as drug users. I drink maybe twice a year -- if you drink more frequently than that, you're a silly alcohol addict, right?
You say that cartels are shooting Americans who aren't doing anything. Why do cartels exist? How about the cops that kill Americans in their homes executing drug warrants based on flimsy evidence? Ever heard of Jose Guerena? A USMC vet and Iraq war vet, he was gunned down by Tucson SWAT in front of his wife and daughter.
I have little patience for those WODers that haven’t tried to better themselves through self-education and haven’t bothered to learn basic economic facts. Google is free. What is their excuse?
The reasons illegals come here are twofold: 1) jobs and 2) better opportunities for their children (including birthright citizenship).... I’m answering your post to me. They do NOT come here for the reasons you cite above. They are here to take over the SWUSA and anything else they can turn into a third world shithole. WITH the help of their own government that can’t launch a decisive attack on us.
And how exactly would they take over this country if they weren't able to find jobs and their illegal children were barred from entry into public schools and universities?
You're so focused on the La Raza agenda and Reconquista that you aren't focused on the problem of illegal immigration. They come here to do one of two things: they either come here to work, or to have children that become U.S. citizens upon birth, and then freeload. If you heavily fine employers who hire illegals, illegals won't be able to find jobs. No business will risk its livelihood if knowingly hiring illegals would bankrupt them. Next, if you bar young illegals from public education, their parents will be put on notice that if they want their kids to get an education, it won't happen in this country. All you have to do then is deal with birthright citizenship.
It’s truly amazing how some people with legitimate gripes about the failed economic policies of Democrats seek to repeat these same failed policies by waging a War on Drugs.
Propagandist brow beating works too! Just say no!
Just say no to governmental overreach!
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