U.S. bears blame for Mexico drug violence

Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 8/31/11 | Alejandro Escalona

[10thAmendmentGuy]

Two and a half minutes.

That is the time it took for several armed men to storm a casino in northern Mexico, order the patrons to get out and torch the place with gasoline. Fifty-two people died in the blaze, mostly women and senior citizens who enjoyed playing bingo.

The daylight attack at the Casino Royale happened a week ago in Monterrey, Mexico. It was the worst attack on civilians since the massacre of 72 migrants last year.

...The United States shares responsibility for the thousands of people dead, injured and displaced in the five-year drug war that Mexican President Felipe Calderon has launched against the drug cartels. But we seem to ignore the connection between the high demand for illegal drugs and the violence associated with drug trafficking — not only in Mexico but in cities such as Los Angeles, New York and Chicago.

The connection is crystal clear: The U.S. represents a yearly $39 billion market for the drug cartels because an estimated 25 million Americans — 12 and older — consume some type of illegal drug, according to the Justice Department.

[Responsibility2nd]

Your posting history does not lie. As I said. We are watching you. Even as you troll the pedophile threads defending porn from a 10th Amendment perspective even though YOU KNOW pornography and pedophillia are from the same nasty degenerate cloth.

 

 

Your posting history does not lie. As I said. We are watching you. Even as you troll the pedophile threads defending porn from a 10th Amendment perspective even though YOU KNOW pornography and pedophillia are from the same nasty degenerate cloth.

[Uri’el-2012]

Welcome as a N00b to FR

10thAmendmentGuy
Since Aug 20, 2011

[10thAmendmentGuy]

You think I care if you're watching me? I don't. You're acting like such a doofus. Defending porn from a 10th amendment perspective? Saying it is the responsibility of states to regulate it means that I am pro-porn? Give me a break. I've said all along that porn can have some serious negative effects, but I think that the harms that would come from making it illegal would be greater than the harms we have from it today.

Just admit that you love the idea of a big federal government. The idea of a federal government that stays within the confines of the Constitution is contrary to everything you believe in. I already asked you if you think the War on Drugs is unconstitutional. You declined to answer it. You asked me if federal immigration restrictions are constitutional. I replied that they were, and gave you reasons why.

[10thAmendmentGuy]

Welcome yourself, Christian Jew.

[10thAmendmentGuy]

Hey, Alejandro, that's what Prohibition gets you, as the Justice Department knows. Besides, Mexico is just as culpable in the current situation as Mexico signed onto the UN's drug treaties, which is the penultimate, unrecognized source of your feigned angst.

I don't think the author even wants an end to the WOD. He's just trying to put all of the blame on America. You're right though that the problem is prohibition, and that Mexico is run by commies that want to ban drugs and guns. It is one more example of a terribly run country.

[philman_36]

You CANNOT fight the the battle for illegal immigration while waiving the white flag on the War on Drugs.
Who the hell here is fighting a battle for illegal immigration?
And the two issues are only interrelated because of the prohibition of some drugs. Both issues exist despite the other. Even if drugs were legalized illegal immigration would still be a separate, stand alone issue requiring government enforcement.

And don't ever forget that the current drug war is ultimately laid at the feet of, and breast fed by, the UN!

[Uri’el-2012]

Welcome yourself, Christian Jew.

You seem to have anger issues.

or you are a Marxist/Anarchist masquerading as a "libertarian"

Or you could be a Paulbot.

OOOps I repeat myself

[philman_36]

What you liberals don’t understand...
And you damn well know I'm not a liberal so you can "File 13" that BS!

[10thAmendmentGuy]

Just stop it, philman_36. You are obviously pro-drug and it disgusts me. We'd end up with 10 times as many heroin addicts and 50 times as many marijuana addicts if we legalized drugs. This country would collapse under the weight of its own decadence and decay, and you will be to blame. Tell me, how do/would you sleep at night?

You're on the side of the drug cartels, because drug dealers obviously want drugs legalized so they can compete with big pharmaceutical companies in selling their products. They want to make substantially less in profits. That's why they are campaigning so hard to make drugs legal.

[10thAmendmentGuy]

That was a compliment. I am Jewish myself, with quite a few Messianic relatives. They call themselves “Christian Jews” sometimes. Why so touchy?

[10thAmendmentGuy]

See #50

[ANGGAPO]

I keep thinking of how I would feel, after getting on my flight to Denver, wondering if the pilot was flying high on a shot of Coke. How about your local bus driver?
Making this stuff legal is a very bad idea.

[10thAmendmentGuy]

Yes, because the current laws outlawing possession of cocaine prevent pilots from buying it and getting on a plane high.

Seriously?

No one is advocating letting pilots fly high. We've had some problems in the past few years with pilots getting into cockpits while drunk, which is illegal, just as flying under the influence of anything is illegal.

[IronJack]

The question is not relevant to the discussion at hand.

[philman_36]

I keep thinking of how I would feel, after getting on my flight to Denver, wondering if the pilot was flying high on a shot of Coke. How about your local bus driver?
How friggin' narrow can you get in your thinking?! What makes you think that the pilot or bus driver in question isn't already doing "a shot of coke" despite it currently being a "controlled" substance?
Sorry to 'harsh your melon', but plain ass stupid is what your comment is!

[RickB444]

Bull Flop! Even if drugs were made totally legal in America the drug lords in Mexico would still kill each other and the citizens of both countries to gain top dog status.

Even if they made them legal in both countries the drug lords and manufacturers would be fighting like animals to be the king of the hill.

[Safetgiver]

The drug cartels only exist because drugs are illegal in the United States, and most of their profits come from marijuana, because most people in this country are not stupid enough to do things like heroin....HUH?

[Steel Wolf]

Just stop it, philman_36. You are obviously pro-drug and it disgusts me. We'd end up with 10 times as many heroin addicts and 50 times as many marijuana addicts if we legalized drugs. This country would collapse under the weight of its own decadence and decay, and you will be to blame. Tell me, how do/would you sleep at night?

Yeah. Now that alcohol and tobacco is legalized, everyone in the country is driving drunk and dying of lung cancer. America is collapsing under the weight of chemical abuse. If only we had the wisdom to keep alcohol illegal, then our freeways would still be drivable, instead of clogged up with endless acres of drunk driving wrecks. Smoking is way more prevalent now than it was in the 1950s, because its legal. It's estimated that 112% of America will die of lung cancer from the 3 packs a day everyone smokes.

You're on the side of the drug cartels, because drug dealers obviously want drugs legalized so they can compete with big pharmaceutical companies in selling their products. They want to make substantially less in profits. That's why they are campaigning so hard to make drugs legal.

Yeah. Why buy a product legally when you can buy it illegally for more money, and risk going to jail? I'd love to buy a new $2000 flatscreen from Sears, but I'd much rather buy one I know was stolen for $3000. Because that makes sense.

[10thAmendmentGuy]

I hope you’re just responding in jest. I don’t think I could have made my post to phil any more sarcastic if I had tried. Look at my tagline.

[philman_36]

You mean, vile excuse of a human being! How dare you use sarcasm and hyperbole against me in the manner in which you have!
You better watch out, buddy, or I'm going to have to use some on you! {;^)