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Perry in position to lead on immigration policy
Houston Chronicle ^ | August 31, 2011 | Geoffrey A. Hoffman

Posted on 09/01/2011 7:56:10 AM PDT by triumphant values

Imagination is the key tool missing in the political arena.

Immigration policy, especially, suffers from a lack of creative solutions and imagined possibilities for a better future, not just for immigrants but for all of us. The undocumented population recently was estimated at approximately 12 million. However, no one knows for sure how many there are in the United States. By definition, the undocumented are unrepresented in our political process, but also in our census. There is no way to accurately count them. There is no way for them to forcefully represent themselves, their interests or to communicate their political will unless citizens and advocates do it for them.

This lack of imagination is starkly illustrated by recent proposed legislation - for example, the so-called HALT Act, aimed at stripping immigrants of some forms of discretionary relief, as well as overreaching state legislation, which aims to tighten restrictions on noncitizens and their families by making it easier to question, detain and deport them. The alternative (not yet imagined in the minds of legislators or the public) is to address the salient question: How do we utilize the talents of the millions who have been relegated to the shadows? Imagine tapping into the creative energies and ideas of these people, bringing them from the shadows to the forefront of our economy and society, educating and empowering them so they can serve as future leaders and engines of empowerment to others and engines for our teetering economy.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalaliens; immigration; perry
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To: bgill

Compare that to the official unemployment number of around 14 million. We could achieve a near zero unemployment number if it weren’t for the illegals. (an actual zero rate is technically impossible without forced labor)


41 posted on 09/01/2011 8:42:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The GOP has been "moderated" into a coma.)
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To: triumphant values

You are right on point. Sorta like the choice between Obama and Perry.


42 posted on 09/01/2011 8:44:20 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: ken21
we’re way beyond having mexicans learn english.

Hell, we're way beyond even having Mexicans coming in who speak even Spanish.

Hundreds of thousands of Southern Mexico hill country Indians have come here, and they haven't even learned Spanish in 400 years.

And some actually think they'll learn English? They're nuts.

43 posted on 09/01/2011 8:44:43 AM PDT by triumphant values
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To: Salvavida

Bachmann has a very acceptable record on Immigration and border control. Numbers USA gives her a B- which is far above the big ticket RINOs.


44 posted on 09/01/2011 8:44:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The GOP has been "moderated" into a coma.)
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To: muawiyah

There is nothing to appeal. They are foreigners who violated our laws. They get deported. They also should be forever banned from ever returning to this country for any reason for the rest of their lives. That is all that needs to be done.

There is no need to make it a big issue out of getting rid of a few million illegals.


45 posted on 09/01/2011 8:45:40 AM PDT by CGalen
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To: CGalen
A MUCH cheaper and easier way to round up and deport all the 30 million illegals here now, is to offer US Citizens a $10,000.00 tax-free reward for each and every illegal caught and deported.

Now, coming up with that idea required imagination!

46 posted on 09/01/2011 8:45:55 AM PDT by danielmryan
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To: cripplecreek; All
More illegals finding their way to Texas.

Number of illegal immigrants getting in-state tuition for Texas colleges rises

His illegal-friendly policies for the rest of the country? HELL NO!

47 posted on 09/01/2011 8:49:04 AM PDT by rintense (ABO can KMA.)
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To: CGalen
Sometimes mistakes are made ~ hence the appeals. Actually, this is very important ~ the courts have decided people caught up in deportation procedures are entitled to an appeal. There was a time an appeal had to be made overseas. The LBJ revisions to immigration law allowed the appeals to be made in the USA.

A simple reversion to the former rule will eliminate the backlog of appeals. Clever reassignment of a number of Leftwingtard judges to choice overseas sites will keep it that way.

I'm not thinking of sending them to nice places BTW ~ no European postings for example!

48 posted on 09/01/2011 8:56:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rintense
Texas belongs to a consortium of states with colleges that will give instate tuition rates to any student from any of those states.

They have to get themselves admitted to the colleges and universities on their own, but they get the lower rate.

It's not enough to look at Texas ~ look at all those other states where the illegals are slipping in.

49 posted on 09/01/2011 8:58:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"They have to get themselves admitted to the colleges and universities on their own"

But, certainly with affirmative action giving them preference over non-minority Americans.

50 posted on 09/01/2011 9:02:29 AM PDT by drpix
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To: ken21
...where i live they speak spanish and expect businesses and government officials to speak spanish too.

I think that's how it is all across the country. They're not being encouraged to "assimilate", at all. They're being catered to with every printed matter, all across the country. Heck, one national chain store I was at recently even paged the specials in espanol...just to make sure it was heard by all :(

51 posted on 09/01/2011 9:15:41 AM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly. Not to mention all the money it’d save:

Less freebies = less taxes
Less traffic = less need for new roads and repairs
More college slots for US citizens
Less time in medical waiting rooms
Less crime
Less “push 1 for Spanish”
Less water usage during this drought
Less garbage = less landfills
Less sewage


52 posted on 09/01/2011 9:17:27 AM PDT by bgill (just getting tagline ready for 6 months after you vote in Perry - Tried to warn you he's a RINO.)
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To: triumphant values
Well, if the director of U of H's legal department dedicated to seeking asylum for illegal aliens endorses Perry, who am I to disagree?

You know, there is help available for your problem with reading comprehension. Any number of after-school tutoring centers could assist you.

If you had read the article and been able to comprehend it, you would see that the author is neither endorsing Perry nor claiming that Perry endorses the author's ideas. He is ASKING Perry to endorse his ideas. A very big difference. Are we going to start tarring every candidate with the crazy ideas he/she is ASKED to endorse, whether or not they actually do? Because if so, I'm sure I can find a few ideas that Sarah and Michelle have been asked to support that we would find objectionable. Let's associate them with those ideas as well...

53 posted on 09/01/2011 9:25:54 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: MestaMachine
perry needs THIS endorsement like he needs ANOTHER hole in his head.

What endorsement? Did you even read the article?

54 posted on 09/01/2011 9:27:09 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: bgill
Exactly. Not to mention all the money it’d save:

Less freebies = less taxes

Less traffic = less need for new roads and repairs

More college slots for US citizens

Less time in medical waiting rooms

Less crime

Less “push 1 for Spanish”

Less water usage during this drought

Less garbage = less landfills

Less sewage

Yes, I've always wanted to ask these open border advocates, even the ones who want mass immigration but legally, just how many people should we have in the US?

500 million, 750 million, 1.5 billion?

Surely they must have a limit so when we reach that limit what should we do? Obviously they would have to agree you have to have strict enforcement once even their limit is reached.

So they're being completely dishonest.

I myself thought 200 million was enough. Now we have over 300 million and nearly 2 million more via immigration will come this year, and the next, and the next after that.

Plus we haven't increased the size of the House of Reps. since 1912 so we have the worst representation ratio in our history.

Nobody ever talks about that. I don't think a million to one representation was what the founders had in mind.

55 posted on 09/01/2011 9:30:00 AM PDT by triumphant values
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To: cripplecreek

Excuse me? I have never been an unqualified supporter of Perry. Every time I’ve jumped into one of these threads, it’s been to debate facts. Perry’s record on immigration is not as black-and-white as many are trying to make it.


56 posted on 09/01/2011 9:37:25 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Palin or Perry, whoever is ahead in the delegate count on primary day)
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To: CA Conservative
You know, there is help available for your problem with reading comprehension.If you had read the article and been able to comprehend it, you would see that the author is neither endorsing Perry...

This is an endorsement of Perry's policies by any sane standard. It's you who needs reading comprehension assistance.

As governor, he embraced and supported the Texas Dream Act, which is currently in force in our state. The Texas Dream Act permits qualified undocumented immigrants to pay low in-state tuition. In contrast to the proposed federal Dream Act, the state version does not provide a path to citizenship. It does, however, importantly protect these young people from being barred from a much needed education, so long as they have lived in our state for three years and have a high school diploma or GED degree. As Perry has stated accurately, "To punish these young Texans for their parents' actions is not what America has always been about."

Perry's an illegal alien enabler. Period. No amount of obfuscation is going to cover this up.

For a great many of us on FR this is an absolutely uncompromisable deal breaker. No amount of his groupies' shrill pleading and arguing is going to change that.

57 posted on 09/01/2011 9:39:21 AM PDT by triumphant values
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I’m not sure what you’re talking about. You can be indignant if you want but all I said was that its a little late for him to have road to Damascus conversion.


58 posted on 09/01/2011 9:42:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The GOP has been "moderated" into a coma.)
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To: cripplecreek

Actually the figure is closer to 40 million illegals.


59 posted on 09/01/2011 9:43:44 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Perry’s record on immigration is not as black-and-white as many are trying to make it.

Yes it is. He has personally signed legislation that was specifically designed to be an enabler to illegal aliens.

That's it. He can say anything he wants about it, but if judged by his actions it's as black and white as can be.

60 posted on 09/01/2011 9:44:12 AM PDT by triumphant values
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