Sarah Palin Appearance at Tea Party Rally in Iowa ‘No Longer Confirmed’

WSJ ^ | August 31, 2011 | Danny Yadron

[MestaMachine]

They didn’t.

[Vermont Lt]

So its really come down to that? They are hot?

Well at least you are being honest. Most older men around here are so interested in having a hottie on their screen they will vote for one of these women.

I would not follow either one of them out of a burning building.

[MestaMachine]

“Sarah has been loving all the attention she’s been getting, milking it for all its worth. She has strung her devotees along as long as she possibly could, raising their hope.”

Really? And you know this how?

[OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings]

Oh, nonsense, me and Sarah Palin have a lot in common.

Three colleges plus five years equals one journalism degree, for instance.

[Norm Lenhart]

OH!! I KNOW!!!
It’s Piper. It had to be. That mean little child told him! See, apparently she wanted to go to a slumber party next week but Sarah said no. So she contacted the first PDSer she saw on the net and gave him the goods on her horrid, attention hound manipulating mother. And then Bristol dropped a house on her for good measure. And todd threw water on her! And they would have gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for those meddlesome kids and their dog!!!

No, not really. I made that up. But what the heck. Makes a hell of a lot more sense than the typical ‘logic’ and excuses PDSers come up with when asked that question ;)

[presently no screen name]

College doesn’t give one common sense - you are as far away from SARAH as barry is, turkey.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

The only reason the conservative base of the GOP even showed up to vote in 2008 was because of Palin being on the ticket. They weren’t voting for McCain, they were voting for Palin. That fervor has only grown.

Well not exactly. The base showed up to vote (such as it did) because there was a CONSERVATIVE on the ticket - not because Sarah Palin specifically was on it. Now that we have several conservatives in the race, there's really no reason to think that the tepid fervor of 2008 is going to morph in raging flames of political lust for Sarah Palin, beyond her contingent on FR, at least.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

I think it is Perrymania right now were people blindly follow someone they know little about.

I would challenge the premise that we "know little" about Perry. In fact, there seems to be quite a lot of information out there about him, and he has had a more successful tenure in office than Sarah Palin had. To the extent that there is ignorance about Perry out there, it seems to be coming from his opponents on FR who repeat lies and half-truths that those who actually know about him have shown to be false or exaggerated.

[Oceander]

I would challenge the premise that we "know little" about Perry. In fact, there seems to be quite a lot of information out there about him, and he has had a more successful tenure in office than Sarah Palin had. To the extent that there is ignorance about Perry out there, it seems to be coming from his opponents on FR who repeat lies and half-truths that those who actually know about him have shown to be false or exaggerated.

I would agree with you completly; however, I would have to say that much of the larnin' I did about Perry was examining, and then refuting, most of the anti-Perry comments by the Palin-bots (sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander). In particular, I've found that the anti-Perry pieces usually have a small snippet of a remark that is isolated from its actual context, and that once you go back to the original material and read the snippet in context, it either does not mean what the article claimed it meant, or else it becomes tempered and becomes a mistake, but an honest one and not simply a callous sell-out, once again as the anti-Perry articles would have one believe.

Is Perry perfect? No, far from it (then again, only the Good Lord is perfect, the rest of us ain't); however, his actions have been generally consistent with conservative values and he appears to have the same instinct that Reagan did for being able to figure out which conservative principles are core - ones that a conservative cannot do without - and those which are secondary - ones on which a reasonable amount of compromise is acceptable for a reasonable conservative, even if personally distasteful.

And no, I am not saying that Perry is Reagan - Perry is Perry (which is not something one can say about Romney) - and will necessarily have a different take on, and approach to, things; however, there are some analogies 'twixt the two that spark some interest.

A lot of the discussion reminds me of the scene in the movie about mathematician John Nash where Nash and some friends are in a bar trying to figure out who's going to get to go after the one striking hottie at the bar. Nash convinces the other guys that they would all be better off if they instead each went for one of the nice, but not striking, girls at the bar - the thesis being that since there was only one hottie and they all spent the night fighting over who would get her attention, only one of them would actually end up getting the hottie and in the meantime the other girls would have gotten fed up and left the bar, so that all of the other guys would end up going home alone.

The same sort of concept based on the Nash Equilibrium works here: so long as Perry is a "nice girl" candidate, and not a cross-dresser like Romney, we are all better off pulling for a candidate like Perry than we are pining for - and chasing after - the political "striking hottie" because we may all end up being left with no-one to go home with if having that "striking" candidate as our nominee materially reduces the chances of our candidate winning the general election. Perry works, and even though he is not as ideologically perfect as the purists would prefer, he represents something analogous to a Nash equilibrium that gives us all a better chance of having the next President be sympathetic to our principles rather than antithetical to them, as is the current denizen of the White House.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

The same sort of concept based on the Nash Equilibrium works here: so long as Perry is a "nice girl" candidate, and not a cross-dresser like Romney, we are all better off pulling for a candidate like Perry than we are pining for - and chasing after - the political "striking hottie" because we may all end up being left with no-one to go home with if having that "striking" candidate as our nominee materially reduces the chances of our candidate winning the general election. Perry works, and even though he is not as ideologically perfect as the purists would prefer, he represents something analogous to a Nash equilibrium that gives us all a better chance of having the next President be sympathetic to our principles rather than antithetical to them, as is the current denizen of the White House.

So you're saying I shouldn't hold out for Jim DeMint?

[OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings]

Oh, no, I totally agree—I didn’t go to school for the classes, I went so I could pick the brains of the professors and write for the local daily. Smaller pond, easier to fish, et cetera. College doesn’t mean jack if you don’t have internships and a couple of side jobs to go with it.

As for Palin?

She hasn’t declared, and says constantly she’s a private citizen “on vacation,” just driving a bus with her name on the side of it (and who here hasn’t done THAT? I know I’ve got the money lying around) around to key campaign stops that GOP candidates who are *actually* running for president happen to be at.

Meaning she ought to get the same amount of media coverage as Don and Bev Knutson in their Airstream caravan. But I’m not an assignment editor, so I don’t get to make those calls. Palin == eyeballs == ad revenue. Why ad revenue drives news reporting, I’ll never know, but here we are. Lord knows I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night if I thought for a second I was responsible for ruining Piper’s vacation.

My view on Sarah Palin: If I wanted to get jerked around, I could do it myself with a lot less fuss.

[Oceander]

That depends; is he a “nice girl” politically, or is he just a political queer in drag?

[presently no screen name]

I ignored your post - turkey. No one cares what you liberals think and your obsession with SARAH - as you show up on Sarah threads with your liberal rant.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

He IS the “hot girl.” He makes Palin look plain and dowdy.

[Oceander]

Ok, but is in also in the bar? Worse than fighting over one “hot” girl at the bar is fighting over a “hot” girl who isn’t even there!

[Norm Lenhart]

Hey John,

Every time we go out drinking and hittin’ on women, you always say this and we’re suck of either going home with Miss 2nd Place just so everyone gets a participation trophy or holding our noses and ending up with the worst of the lot. For once John, we are NOT gonna hold our noses. We;re going for the brass ring because after tonight we may never get the chance to play this game ‘ever’ again.

So you go chase the rest with that ‘Brilliant Mind’ of yours Johnny. The rest of is have a rendezvous with destiny ;)

[Oceander]

Yeah, right. You’ll not grab the brass ring no matter how hard you try for it. Palin is neither the purist conservative you would like to make her out to be (go look at some of the legislation she signed onto in Alaska - price controls, crony capitalism, and affirmative action, some of it all rolled into one law) nor the electable candidate you like to imagine she is. In other words, Palin is a RINO that even the usual RINO voters would not support.

Bachmann has as much executive experience as Obama had in 2008, and we can see where that got us to. The rest of the field aren’t even worth discussing as their current polling numbers speak to their electability.

Obama is counting on folks just like you.

[casinva]

the speculation will happen.

Let's hope not. Everyone is just plain getting tired of it at this point.

[SarahPalinForPresident2012]

Brilliant strategy of Gov Palin is wearing the lame stream media out already, LOL

[Jimmy Valentine's brother]

That is some mug shot; the MSM must be saving it because I haven’t seen it widely published.