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Rick Perry has Distanced Himself from George W. Bush's Brand of Conservatism
Washington Post ^ | August 29, 2011 | Perry Bacon Jr.

Posted on 08/29/2011 6:46:20 AM PDT by DRey

Texas Gov. Rick Perry, like most of the other the GOP presidential hopefuls, says his campaign is about undoing the decisions of President Obama. But Perry also presents a stark alternative to the last Republican to occupy the White House, his fellow Texan George W. Bush.

In his writings and speeches before he entered the race, Perry shared the view, widely held among conservatives, that Bush’s government spending habits in office were a betrayal of the GOP’s core fiscal principles. But Perry went further, dismissing “compassionate conservatism,” the central tenet of Bush’s domestic policy, as just more overreach by the federal government.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bush; bushfailure; bushlegacy; bushliberal; bushrino; bushsucked; compassionate; conservatism; gwb43; meetthenewboss; perry
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To: RockinRight

The facts about Perry’s support for TARP and raising the debt ceiling by $2.4 TRILLION are back up the thread. Go read them.

I know the facts about Palin, too.


141 posted on 08/29/2011 8:39:17 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The first duty of all: Provide equal protection for the right to life of all innocent persons.)
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To: shield
Illegal immigration: I remember a time many many years ago when illegals would come by our place daily sometimes in groups but usually in 2's and 3's. And you'd see Border Patrol planes fly over the farms/ranches of South Texas several times a week.

Sometimes the LEGAL farm field workers would have fun by scattering like chickens when the planes flew over. And when the INS vans (notified by the plane) would roll in to round them up, the workers would then come out of hiding laughing like crazy.

Along about that time a law (State?) was enacted that said any vehicle found transporting illegals would be immediately confiscated and not returned. It was very effective in the farming/ranching community because nobody wanted to lose their pickup.

In a very short time the flood slowed to a complete stop and it's been years since we've seen planes, border patrol vans or illegals walking the back roads. The vegetable and cotton farmers have become mechanized and I don't know any farmer/rancher who employs them anymore.

The illegal population has changed over the years too. Now they head directly to the big cities to work in construction, restaurants, etc. The work is easier and the pay is probably better. Also, I think there's a darker element now. More dangerous with the drug and people smugglers.

142 posted on 08/29/2011 8:40:32 AM PDT by Texan
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To: cripplecreek
I was just thinking about the headline on this thread...I'm thinking it needs a revision...

Rick Perry has Distanced Himself from Rick Perry George W. Bush's Brand of Conservatism

143 posted on 08/29/2011 8:41:16 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The first duty of all: Provide equal protection for the right to life of all innocent persons.)
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To: reasonisfaith
"So what does it mean when the Washington Post starts trying to portray a candidate as a conservative, during a time when the political demand is for conservatism?

It doesn’t mean the Washington Post has suddenly become honest. It means the Washington Post has picked the guy they want for the Republican nominee, and that guy is Rick Perry."



BINGO

Anyone who chooses to forget that Perry is the stealth candidate for the elites should just look at who is supporting him. Krauthammer and now the Washington comPost gives him a favorable article. They are tipping their hand big time.

144 posted on 08/29/2011 8:43:09 AM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: RockinRight

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2770335/posts?page=82#82

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2770335/posts?page=116#116


145 posted on 08/29/2011 8:45:20 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The first duty of all: Provide equal protection for the right to life of all innocent persons.)
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To: Texan
How interesting...back in those days they were not never called illegals, they were always called wetbacks.

I agree a much more sinister change has taken place. I know the problem is complex but come on US Government goodies must be stopped completely. We are the welfare country for dirt poor mexicans...and the leaders of Mexico are proud of that. Enough already!!!!!!!

146 posted on 08/29/2011 8:49:50 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: reasonisfaith

Palin is not infallible. She did a lot of things that we’d call RINOish in anyone else.


147 posted on 08/29/2011 8:51:31 AM PDT by RockinRight (The ObamAA+ Downgrade)
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To: tarotsailor
Perry just hired Bush’s campaign team

Nope he hired Jay Carney and Newt's campaign team who had quit when Newt and his wife went on vacation.

Jay Carney had previously worked for Perry but went to Newt back when Perry showed no interest in running.

148 posted on 08/29/2011 8:52:35 AM PDT by Texan
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To: normy

Shhh...don’t speak ill of the Oracle.


149 posted on 08/29/2011 8:52:38 AM PDT by RockinRight (The ObamAA+ Downgrade)
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To: BillyBoy
Not to mention the Texas state budget went from $49 billion to $90 billion under “smaller government” Rick Perry’s watch, when the population only increased by 25% in that same period.

Either you love to deliberately misrepresent the truth, or you just don't understand economics. Let me educate you.

First, a better metric to use for looking at state spending is how much is spent per resident. To make a relevant comparison, you need to adjust for inflation. Let's do that:

Texas per capita spending in 2000: $2109.00
Texas per capita spending in 2010: $3197.00
Percentage of increase in per capita spending: (3197-2109)/2109=51.6%
Aggregate inflation 2001-2010: 26.4%
Actual increase in per capita spending 2001-2010: 25.2% or 2.5% per year.

Now you might want to argue that a real spending increase of 2.5% per year is too much, but it is hardly the liberal spending spree you want to portray.

Just for comparison purposes, I decided to look at Alaska's spending growth during Sarah's term.

Alaska per capita spending in 2006: $11020.00
Alaska per capita spending in 2009: $12778.00
Percentage of increase in per capita spending: (12778-11020)/11020=15.6%
Aggregate inflation 2007-2009: 6.2%

Actual increase in real per capita spending 2007-2009: 9.4% or 3.13% per year.

150 posted on 08/29/2011 8:57:50 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: EternalVigilance

OK, fine, on TARP...but MANY others supported it, too.

As far as Cut, Cap, and Balance, I supported it, it was the only realistic plan out there.

A sudden forced reduction of 40% on federal spending would have crashed the markets and economy far worse that they already did. And while possibly the best way to solve the problem, it would have been an electoral disaster for the GOP.


151 posted on 08/29/2011 9:08:16 AM PDT by RockinRight (The ObamAA+ Downgrade)
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To: Jeff Head
But through the primaries, I must support somone who not only gets the economy and other critical issues right, but also get it right on immigration.
I think that Gov. Perry's stance on immigration is symptomatic of the political realities in Texas, a border state on the front line of the immigration issue, and therefore a microcosm of what we all face. That doesn't excuse it, however, it explains it to a degree. I'm looking for a candidate that will at a minimum, as president, lead the charge to secure the border. That one action would be a giant step in beginning to control illegal immigration. The House and Senate are bigger hurdles to overcome, IMO.
152 posted on 08/29/2011 9:09:14 AM PDT by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: RockinRight

Correction—she never did the ultimate RINO thing—she never compromised her principles.

Palin’s record shows her to be the opposite of a RINO.


153 posted on 08/29/2011 9:11:00 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: txrangerette; EternalVigilance
Given his history, he must feel pretty good about that sorry act, down there in Mom’s basement...

LOL! I know! I was thinking, "what in the world have I missed"? Didn't he just prove he lied? Too funny.
154 posted on 08/29/2011 9:13:44 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: RockinRight
Well we all better realize that no candidate is perfect and all have some flaws. I'm gonna trust God not the person.
155 posted on 08/29/2011 9:14:07 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: reasonisfaith

If you believe that, then Sarah has a bridge to nowhere to sell you, that she supported before she was against.

I don’t mean to knock Palin, just that EVERY CANDIDATE (and potential one) has had some controversial positions, some flip flops, and some boneheaded moves.


156 posted on 08/29/2011 9:14:33 AM PDT by RockinRight (The ObamAA+ Downgrade)
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To: DRey

“Enforcing the laws as written is always a good idea. The issue is funding, as it would take an incredible tax hike to pay for it. I mean, these illegals are EVERYWHERE. They’re working in singles up to groups of hundreds. The groups are easier to locate, but that will never eliminate the problem. Greed will always make it a problem, just like drug sales. Cutting the head off is the first step, and it’s a doosey.”

You move a mountain ONE shovel at a time! This is a big Time issue and will NOT go away,Close The border and remove this pestilence ,You win the election! Or you lose for turning a blind eye!


157 posted on 08/29/2011 9:17:17 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: RockinRight
Well, it's nice to see someone on this thread admit to the obvious facts that Perry supported TARP and raising the debt ceiling by $2.4 TRILLION dollars.

Both bills, of course, were totally wrong. TARP because there is no legitimate constitutional grant of power to take money from one group of people, the taxpayers, and hand it over to another more favored group, the bankers. "Cut, cap and balance" because it is immoral to rob our posterity of their God-given, unalienable right to government by consent.

"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

-- Thomas Jefferson


158 posted on 08/29/2011 9:18:17 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The first duty of all: Provide equal protection for the right to life of all innocent persons.)
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To: DRey; All

http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/perry-puts-out-call-to-action-in-fed-1019388.html?printArticle=y

“”I do think George (W. Bush) is basically a conservative man who believes in God, in the greatness of America, in the protection of life, and in protecting our nation from our enemies ... (but) he turned a blind eye to undisciplined domestic spending while he focused on ensuring funding for a very important war against the perpetrators of terror.”


159 posted on 08/29/2011 9:19:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Texas Eagle

To think Palin was renaming conservatism is to misunderstand the entire discussion.

Let’s go back.

“Compassionate conservatism,” when coined a decade ago, meant replacing the genuine compassion inherent to conservatism with the artificial, self-centered compassion of liberalism.

For Palin to use the term common sense conservatism is merely to remind conservatives that they have left one of the most authentic components of conservatism—common sense—out of the picture. She merely used common sense in a descriptive way, not in an attempt to rename conservatism.

The distinction is critical, yet it appears subtle and maybe obscure only if viewed hastily or superficially.


160 posted on 08/29/2011 9:20:20 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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