I believe in the Biblical Story of Creation AND I believe in Evolution. They are NOT mutually exclusive (Smiling as I toss a grenade!)
I would honestly like to see a few articles or references to this point of view.
P.S. I’m familiar with Hugh Ross’s work already ...
same here...
I agree with you. Nobody I know has ever asked God how long one of his days was.
I can live with that.
“I believe in the Biblical Story of Creation AND I believe in Evolution. They are NOT mutually exclusive (Smiling as I toss a grenade!)”
So Adam was accidentally created by god who shall remain nameless? LOL!
Book II “Question of the phase in which the moon was made” 15, 30
“God, after all is the author and founder of things in their actual natures. Now whatever any single thing may in some way or other produce and unfold by its natural development through periods of time that are suited to it, it contained it beforehand as something hidden, if not in specific forms and bodily mass, at least by the force and reckoning of nature, unless of course a tree, void of fruit and stripped of its leaves throughout the winter, is then to be called imperfect, or unless again at its origins, when it had still not yet borne any fruit, its nature was also imperfect. It is not only about the tree, but about its seed also that this could not rightly be said; there everything that with the passage of time is somehow or other going to appear is already latent in invisible ways. Although, if God were to make anything imperfect, which he then would himself bring to perfection, what would be reprehensible about such an idea? But you would be quite within your rights to disapprove if what had been begun by him were said to be completed and perfected by another.”
—Augustine, “On the Literal Interpretation of Genesis”, ca. A.D. 401-415
I think the biggest problem in the discussion of GOD and EVOLUTION is that the term EVOLUTION is only loosely defined and understood by the public, and is misused in debate and conversation. Most likely the term GOD is loosely defined and misused as well.
I believe in micro evolution, but not macro evolution.
I agree. In my view, God gave us our soul and that is what lives forever and longs to be back with Him. Without that, we are just a bunch of hairless apes.
Where I fell off the evolution band wagon and began to doubt a dozen years of solid indoctrination was the complete lack of evidence for trans-speciation (sp?) and how little physical fossil evidence is actually out there for older extinct primate species. The presumption that those ancient chimps changed over time into modern humans is a nice theory but (IMHO) it has yet to be proven. Plus, since all humans but no other modern primates possess certain traits that are only seen in aquatic mammals (furless, large brained, subcutaneous fat layers, with slightly webbed fingers and toes) I think the experts are looking in all the wrong places for our ancestral stock.
Therefore, if by "evolution" you mean change over time within species (that one can in good faith believe were created by a benevolent G*d) there is no conflict. But self-described "evolutionists" these days tend to also be vocal atheists who push their beliefs well past where physical evidence warrants.
Evem some top religious figure say there is room for both, if you are willing to believe in Creationism for the starting line. I know ther is proof-positive for mutations, but they are almost exclusively fatal changes. Then there is breeding bad traits out for survival (or because the bad traits died out) like monkeys having almost no neck - a longer neck tends to break easier when young ones fall out of trees.
While ther is must evidence that seems to point at evolution, it cannot be proved (as of today anyway) any more than Creationism can be disproved.
Here's your grenade back - it looks like you forgot to pull the pin - although there are sure to be some who will pull it themselves...
Kinda like the old Dixiecrat bumper-sticker.
"I love God, I own a gun, I vote Democrat."
Always wanted to add, "I are stupid"...
No grenade. It’s the only thing that really makes sense to those who believe, and I stress believe, in evolutionary theory which, at this point in our scientific knowledge, is no more provable than creationism. The “dust of the earth” might as well be gorillas or chimps, but a whole lot more data is needed to make it a fact.
Gen 1:20
“And God said, ‘Let the waters move and bring forth the moving creature that hath life’”
Lotta folks seem to ignore that one...
I agree with your stand.
You didn't throw the grenade. You only threw the safety ring. The grenade is still in your own hand . . . . 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... Bye!