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1 posted on 08/22/2011 10:16:27 AM PDT by markomalley
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I hope this doesn’t sound heartless, but I often see people with food stamps dressed very nicely, with fancy cell phones, and jewelry.


2 posted on 08/22/2011 10:19:23 AM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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If we ended all government subsidies for illegal aliens in our country, millions of them would go home. That significant reduction in the labor pool would make it much easier for Genna Saucedo to find full-time work, and might increase her hourly wage as well.


3 posted on 08/22/2011 10:24:00 AM PDT by American Quilter (aka American Hobbit)
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When we're all on food stamps, can we line up at the State-run grocery and see if there is anything on the shelves?

Maybe if some of those jobs picking the produce Americans don't want to pick were left over from our undocumented visitors from elsewhere, the food stamp set could pick their own.

Or not...might mess up their custom nails.

5 posted on 08/22/2011 10:24:42 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Genna Saucedo supervises cashiers at a Wal-Mart in Pico Rivera, California, but her wages aren't enough to feed herself and her 12-year-old son.

And where's the boy's father?

7 posted on 08/22/2011 10:25:16 AM PDT by Aikonaa
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Rewarding irresponsibility is never sustainable. That’s my biggest concern regarding welfare. If someone has a run of misfortune and needs assistantance, I’m ok with that but when you have millions of people using welfare as a permanent survival solution, I have to protest. I definitely have a problem with the taxpayers being forced to subsidize irresponsible reproductive behaviors. This is unsustainable and needs to come to an end.


11 posted on 08/22/2011 10:30:53 AM PDT by RC one (NO MORE RINOs!!!)
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“USA becomes Food Stamp Nation but is it sustainable?”

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The fact that this abominable scenario is posed as a question, qualifies this no talent journalist for an immediate F- in Macroeconomics 101.


13 posted on 08/22/2011 10:34:47 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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USA becomes Food Stamp Nation but is it sustainable?

Of course it is, silly. The government explained it to me. Food stamps (and unemployment) allows people to buy FOOD! And where does the food come from? The STORE! And how does it get to the store? TRUCKS! So without food stamps, all the truckers would be out of business, there would be no workers stocking food in stores, and we would all starve! /s

14 posted on 08/22/2011 10:34:59 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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Sustainable? Hardly, Food Stamps are a MUST in the path to economic progress and a booming economy. The program now only encompasses 45 million Americans. To get the economy going, we MUST get it up, Up and UP.... to 300,000,000 or more!

This is because we now know from Ag Sec Tom Vilsack that a dollar investment in food stamps yields $1.84 in GDP due to the multiplier effect.


15 posted on 08/22/2011 10:35:06 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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for many Americans like Saucedo there is little current alternative if they are to put food on the table while paying rent and utility bills.

Bullhockey. There have been times in my life where I supported a wife and two children on very modest incomes. At one point that included schlepping ties at the mall on weekends. You do what you gotta do.
16 posted on 08/22/2011 10:36:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Two of my able bodied friends are now “retired” courtesy of the state of California's very liberal definition of who is “disabled.” I showed them pictures from my recent trip to Hawaii to make the following point. Yes the government will meet you basic needs for the rest of your life, but it will be a miserable existence. No nice vacations, living only in rundown apartments, no chance of marrying a nice women, no new car, etc.
17 posted on 08/22/2011 10:37:51 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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For years our government has pursued policies that reduced the wages of the lowest paid Americans, while also instituting programs such as food stamps and medicaid to provide things they can’t afford on low wages.

Welfare and programs that provide benefits to lower wage earners now total $930 billion per year and climbing.

We will never even make a dent in our huge budget deficits and mushrooming national debt until there are decent paying jobs that enable the lower paid workers to provide for their own needs.

But all those imports are so “cheap” and that illegal alien labor is also “cheap”.


19 posted on 08/22/2011 10:39:33 AM PDT by Will88
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It’s wealth redistribution disguised as government empathy.

How many food stamp recipients actually have their kids receive most of their meals at school cafeterias?

I recently read that some schools will now serve free meals to all students to avoid any stigma that may attach to the handouts.

Many schools now feed almost all, or all, students at least two meals a day.

Some serve two meals plus snacks.
Some serve three meals a day.
Some serve meals 7 days a week.
Some serve 2 or 3 meals daily even when school is not in session.

Just another way to use handouts to inculcate reliance on government starting with toddlers attending Head Start right up to college, then on to a government job for life.


21 posted on 08/22/2011 10:41:21 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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I don't think any of the entitlement programs are sustainable unless there is a drastic uptick in employment and prosperity and end in corruption, cronyism and wastful spending which I do not see happening.

The problem is people get used to these entitlements and don't want to do what it takes to get off. I don't begrudge people who really need them, but I do think we took a wrong turn years ago by starting welfare and so much of this.

I get torn about the more decent illegal aliens, but I think what country could Americans who were poverty-stricken illegally enter and get food stamps, put up in housing and education? Or steal an identity or forged papers to get a job. Forgery worked during WWII for some, but I wouldn't count on it today in other countries. I know if you travel in a socialist country and get injured or sick, you may or may not get taken care of gratus by their socialized medicine. Maybe a family might help you if you pitched in and helped and had a marketable skill. But word would get out, you'd be found out, and I don't know one country that woudln't boot you right out but ours.

Liberals don't seem to mind footing the bill for all this, not the pols but the supporters with means. I don't understand it. Do they have such generous hearts that they want to take care of the whole world and put out economy in the crapper, then blame conservatives for it?

Some of us conservatives have hearts, too, although some of us had to learn a lesson in a very hard way. Charity begins at home. And what it means to be an enabler.

23 posted on 08/22/2011 10:45:51 AM PDT by Aliska
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Saucedo, who earns $9.70 an hour

Hard to believe, in 2011 they still pay 9 bucks and change an hour...That's freaking nuts.

28 posted on 08/22/2011 10:52:05 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Never forget -

Food Stamps are the bread line!
The bread line is now over 40 million people long, just because you don't see it on the corner, doesn't mean it isn't there.
The politicians couldn't make it go away, but they were successful at hiding it.


29 posted on 08/22/2011 10:52:39 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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Genna Saucedo supervises cashiers at a Wal-Mart and earns $9.70 an hour.

They pay 9 bucks an hour in 2011? And she's a supervisor?

Good grief!

31 posted on 08/22/2011 10:56:27 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Many folks on food stamps have no concept of the following:

1) Coupons
2) Buying on sale
3) Budgeting
4) Substituting hamburger for steak
5) Cooking rather than buying microwavable pre-processed food
6) Eliminating luxuries—soda, ice cream,chips
7) Tupperware for lunch at work rather than McDonalds

I could go on forever...


35 posted on 08/22/2011 11:09:46 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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the cost doubled to reach $68 billion in 2010

That's an unchallenged lie. The total cost to the taxpayers is triple that. The $68 billion figure is just the total that makes it onto the EBT cards, as if there was no government overhead, advertising, black limousines, bloated salaries and pensions. As a rule of thumb half of all wealth that passes through the government beast is destroyed.

39 posted on 08/22/2011 11:50:38 AM PDT by Reeses (It's a safety net, not a hammock!)
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“Genna Saucedo supervises cashiers at a Wal-Mart in Pico Rivera, California, but her wages aren’t enough to feed herself and her 12-year-old son”

Yes they are. This reminds me of how, in the rare case that a budget is ever cut, governments immediately rid themselves of the stuff its citizens actually need, like police and fire fighters. No doubt this mother can’t pay for something, but it’s not food. This article and liars everywhere highlight food for the obvious reason that a mother and child starving is the worst possible outcome of low wages they can imagine.

It’s also the least likely outcome, given how obvious it is that people need food more than anything short of air and water. Any mother prioritizing shelter and clothing—let alone cable tv—over sustenance is a monster as well as criminal. But outlandish stories sell best. As someone once said:

“[The credulous man] finds most delight in believing strange things, and the stranger they are, the easier they pass with him; but he never regards those that are plain and feasible, for every man can believe such.”


40 posted on 08/22/2011 11:51:27 AM PDT by Tublecane
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Judging by what I see the % is much much more than what they are saying....I’d say fully 1/3 to 1/2 of the population is on EBT, Section 8, AFDC, WICs, SCHIP, SSI, disability or the like. Maybe more. We are awash in debt and sloth.


55 posted on 08/22/2011 2:58:04 PM PDT by Gaffer
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