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Aliens may destroy humanity to protect other civilisations, say scientists
guardian ^ | 8-18-2011 | gouscoc

Posted on 08/19/2011 7:10:48 AM PDT by edcoil

It may not rank as the most compelling reason to curb greenhouse gases, but reducing our emissions might just save humanity from a pre-emptive alien attack, scientists claim.

Watching from afar, extraterrestrial beings might view changes in Earth's atmosphere as symptomatic of a civilisation growing out of control – and take drastic action to keep us from becoming a more serious threat, the researchers explain.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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To: Steely Tom
Not even wrong.

What, is someone talking about string theory again?

81 posted on 08/19/2011 8:37:26 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: TheBigIf

Alien 1: Hey everyone! I just got this white paper on AGW from Al Gore!

Alien 1: Let’s roll!


82 posted on 08/19/2011 8:41:08 AM PDT by tweakDU
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To: edcoil

This sounds like Paul Krugman and Al Gore after spending about a week together watching Star Trek reruns


83 posted on 08/19/2011 8:43:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: JusPasenThru

When you listen very closely to your bowl, you’ll hear, in squeaky voices sprinked with clicks and whistles, “see ya later suckers!”


84 posted on 08/19/2011 8:43:52 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: edcoil

Somewhere out there, Art Bell is smiling...


85 posted on 08/19/2011 8:48:31 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: tweakDU

Alien 1: Zandar come here quick! Look through this telescope!

Alien 2: Holy Banxerdats! Are those deadly SUVs that they are driving??? I thought that Al Gore of the planet Genocide said he was getting SUVs banned all throughout the Universe. We should only be seeing electric golf carts on the road of this planet!!!!

Alien 1: Get me Al Gore on the phone!!!!!

Alien 1 (on phone): Al Gore you said that you had this all under control!

Al Gore: Those right-wingers have exposed me here on earth! They have turned the words ‘climate change’ into a dirty word even in bipartisan company. What can I do?

Alien 1: Do nothing! We are sending armies of environmentally friendly war ships to do battle with the right-wingers of earth. We are producing more of the feather weapons you invented. Hopefully you did at least get those guns that they have banned… right?

Alien 1: Al Gore? Are you there? I think he hung up.


86 posted on 08/19/2011 8:52:52 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TEXOKIE

They are getting desperate.

Now they will trump the whole “Aliens will kill us if we don’t control gorebull warming!” Angle.

These morons don’t realize that space itself is so vast and so full of resources that any alien civilization worth it’s salt will view being still living in a gravity well of a planet the same way we view the Amish.

The asteroids alone contain vast amounts of easily obtainable resources for any interplanetary civ, let alone one that is interstellar.

If aliens come to destroy us it would most likely be done to snuff out any potential competition. As is the case with how biology works by nature and the best model we have so far to attempt to model their potential motives.

Now if these lunatrons are putting this idea out there, I can’t help wondering if they have levers to fake such an event.


87 posted on 08/19/2011 8:53:21 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: massgopguy

Unsure of the spelling.


88 posted on 08/19/2011 8:54:01 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: calico_thompson

Apparently, Aliens have already invaded Manhattan.


89 posted on 08/19/2011 9:20:23 AM PDT by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

LOL! Strange, isnt it???


90 posted on 08/19/2011 9:28:08 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: GraceG

lunatrons .... love that!


91 posted on 08/19/2011 9:29:02 AM PDT by domeika
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To: GraceG

Interesting well stated points. Thank you for your reply. I share your concerns.


92 posted on 08/19/2011 9:29:54 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: BlazingArizona

“Now we know that this phrase was actually “Klaatu Baracka nikto”.”

ROFL!


93 posted on 08/19/2011 9:32:29 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: GraceG

lunatrons .... love that!


94 posted on 08/19/2011 9:35:19 AM PDT by domeika
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To: GraceG

lunatrons .... love that!


95 posted on 08/19/2011 9:35:19 AM PDT by domeika
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To: GraceG

LOL ^2


96 posted on 08/19/2011 10:12:57 AM PDT by tweakDU
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To: edcoil

Get used to seeing more of this. It will continue and even increase until the Rapture and that’s how they will explain the disappearance of so many people.


97 posted on 08/19/2011 10:13:03 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: edcoil
I just hope the aliens don't see this report - while they obviously won't destroy us for out greenhouse gas levels, they might unfortunately assume all of humanity is this stupid, and decide the galaxy is better off without us anyway.

As a side note, isn't this the exact plot of the Day the Earth Stood Still?

98 posted on 08/19/2011 10:20:31 AM PDT by Drrdot
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To: edcoil

NASA twitter disavowing report:

Some important points of clarification
So here’s the thing. This isn’t a “NASA report.” It’s not work funded by NASA, nor is it work supported by NASA in other ways. It was just a fun paper written by a few friends, one of whom happens to have a NASA affiliation.

A while ago, a couple good friends of mine (Seth Baum and Jacob Haqq-Misra) approached me about a paper they were writing, and asked if I wanted to join them on it. The paper was a review of all the different proposed situations for contact with an alien civilization. I didn’t think this was particularly important. After all, I consider the likelihood of contact with an alien civilization to be low. It certainly wasn’t urgent, as I don’t expect this to happen anytime soon. But… it sounded like fun and I decided to join in on it. So we wrote the paper, but I have to admit that Seth and Jacob put in the vast majority of the work on it. One of the scenarios we considered in the review was the possibility that an alien civilization would contact us because they were concerned about the exponential growth of our civilization, as evidenced by climate change. This isn’t an entirely new idea; remember, this was a review effort. Indeed, Keanu Reaves recently played a similar alien in the movie “The Day the Earth Stood Still.” There were lots of other ideas we reviewed, but this was probably the most provocative.
Well, the paper came out a couple months ago. Today, for some reason, The Guardian picked it up, publishing an article about it with the following title: “Aliens may destroy humanity to protect other civilisations, say scientist: Rising greenhouse emissions may tip off aliens that we are a rapidly expanding threat, warns a report for NASA.” That then was picked up by The Drudge Report, with this headline:
“NASA REPORT: Aliens may destroy humanity to protect other civilizations…”
UH OH. Now that is a bit problematic.
So here’s the deal, folks. Yes, I work at NASA. It’s also true that I work at NASA Headquarters. But I am not a civil servant… just a lowly postdoc. More importantly, this paper has nothing to do with my work there. I wasn’t funded for it, nor did I spend any of my time at work or any resources provided to me by NASA to participate in this effort. There are at least a hundred more important and urgent things to be done on any given work day than speculate on the different scenarios for contact with alien civilizations… However, in my free time (what precious little I have), I didn’t mind working on stuff like this every once in a while. Why? Well, because I’m a geek and stuff like this is fun to think about. Unfortunately, there is not enough time for fun. Indeed, I felt guilty at times because this has led to a lack of effort on my part in my interactions with Seth and Jacob. Beyond adding some comments here or there, I did very little for the paper.
But I do admit to making a horrible mistake. It was an honest one, and a naive one… but it was a mistake nonetheless. I should not have listed my affiliation as “NASA Headquarters.” I did so because that is my current academic affiliation. But when I did so I did not realize the full implications that has. I’m deeply sorry for that, but it was a mistake born our of carelessness and inexperience and nothing more. I will do what I can to rectify this, including distributing this post to the Guardian, Drudge, and NASA Watch. Please help me spread this post to the other places you may see the article inaccurately attributed to NASA.
One last thing: I stand by the analysis in the paper. Is such a scenario likely? I don’t think so. But it’s one of a myriad of possible (albeit unlikely) scenarios, and the point of the paper was to review them. But remember - and this is key - it’s me standing for the paper… not the full weight of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. For anything I have done to mis-convey that to those covering this story, to the public, or to the fine employees of NASA, I apologize.
UPDATE/ADDENDUM: If anyone has further questions about the paper itself, I direct you to contact my good friend and colleague, Seth Baum. Seth is the first and corresponding author on the manuscript, so all queries should first be directed to him.


99 posted on 08/19/2011 10:21:42 AM PDT by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: Darksheare; Borax Queen; derllak
Darks is involved in this somehow.........


100 posted on 08/19/2011 10:26:49 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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