Eagle Eye wrote: "Gore was pro life until becoming VP. That is the fact, not my opinion."
Billyboy wrote: "the FACT is that Gore had a pro-abortion voting record THROUGHOUT his Senate career, and was in the pro-abortion camp when he ran for President in 1988"
"Eagle Eye wrote: who do we trust? Billy Boy or the Director for the National Right to Life PAC?"
Excerpt from Eagle Eye's own link says: "However, after being elected to the Senate in 1984, Gore switched his position. He quickly began to assemble a strongly pro-abortion voting record."
Looks like Billy and the NRL director are in agreement. This is not the first time I've seen someone post a link that contradicts their own position. It really boggles my mind how that can happen.
I can't believe we are arguing about whether Gore was a conservative democrat in 1988. When you look at the sky is it red? Purple? Enough of this. Now you can admit you are wrong, there is no shame in that (or don't, just put a sock in it).
Rick was a democrat then and backed a liberal for President, end of story whether you can admit it to yourself or not. I don't have a problem backing a former democrat if they've really changed. Don't expect to get away with posting falsehoods. Someone will call you out for it, each and every time.
Now let's focus on something more important, his mediocre reign as Governor and support for in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. I'd say he hasn't changed much at all. He's another Republicrat through and through.
” Now let’s focus on something more important, his mediocre reign as Governor and support for in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. I’d say he hasn’t changed much at all. He’s another Republicrat through and through. “
This guy hasn’t changed over the years.
Here is Al Gore’s voting record on abortion while in the House and Senate: http://nchla.org/keyresults.asp?state=&locale=checkcongper&congper=Gore&zip=&plusfour=&year=1975&year2=1992&issue=&terms=-1&bills=-1&vote=&displaysize=10&displaystarts=1&displaystarth=1&submit=Search+Key+Votes&displaystarts=11&displaystarts=21&displaystarts=31&displaystarts=1&displaystarth=11&displaystarth=21&displaystarth=31&displaystarth=21&displaystarth=11&displaystarth=1
As BillyBoy and Impy stated, Gore was generally pro-life in the House (he cast a handful of pro-abortion votes over the years), but within less than a year of joining the Senate he was 100% pro-abortion (he did cast a couple of pro-life votes as a first-year Senator).
But let’s be sure not to judge late-1980s conservative Democrats lest we be judged. The 1988 Democratic presidential field was Left and Lefter, and Al Gore was by all accounts the least liberal of the bunch. Gore had a reputation as a moderate on social and economic issues and as a hawk on defense—I’m not saying that I believe that he was anything but an across-the-board liberal, even more liberal than the overrated Sam Nunn and Scoop Jackson (few people realize that Jackson cast pro-abortion votes in 35 of the 36 abortion-related votes he took, and Nunn voted pro-abortion most of the time and even voted against the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban), but to a conservative Democrat who was trying to lead his party away from its liberalism he was the only game in town. Soon thereafter Rick Perry eventually realized that the Democrat Party was beyond salvation and that he could no longer continue to call himself a Democrat, and switched to the GOP in 1989 (just 6 years after Phil Gramm switched, and 5 or 6 years before Southern Democrats Ed Whitfield, Mike Bowers, Fob James, Richard Shelby, Woody Jenkins, Billy Tauzin, Nathan Deal, Mike Parker and Mike Foster switched; current NM Gov. Susana Martinez also switched from Dem to Republican 6 years after Perry did) without having to change any of his views.
There are several reasons why conservatives should be wary of nominating Rick Perry for president, but I don’t think that the fact that he was a Democrat back in 1988 and supported the least liberal Democratic presidential candidate out there is one of them.
In trying to be respectful and not call you a moron for not reading my posts with comprehension, just let me point out that I used the NRL link purposely BECAUSE it pointed out that Gore was pro life in his Congressional years and then changed.
The NRL and Billy Boy are NOT in agreement! Not even close. NRL talks about how pro-life Gore was while Billy Boy denies that fact entirely.
Additionally, I NEVER stated that Gore stayed conservative or pro-life,and have REPEATEDLY stated that he changed his politics substantially after getting into the White House.
I won't hold my breath for an apology.