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As W put it, the soft bigotry of low expectations.
1 posted on 08/03/2011 8:30:24 AM PDT by flowerplough
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To: flowerplough
standardized tests -- top down social engineering -- are plenty prone to proving the old saw about "good intentions paving the road to hell." Herein is just further proof.

Back in the day, competition between schools, districts, states, and even nations seemed to keep people on their toes. And I believe education was a flaming success by every measure back then. It didn't have to be enforced from on high.

But of course, that was in a land far, far away...

Then came things like busing, the metric system, etc. etc. ad infinitum.

27 posted on 08/03/2011 8:55:29 AM PDT by _a_0_0_
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NCLB is an unmitigated disaster, a standard FedGov outcome.

WHy,? IT treats all students as they same - they are not.

In our district, Special Ed kids are forced to take the same test as the Advanced PLacement kiddos.

NCLB has nothing to do with treaching or learning, it has to do with control - by the FedGov.


28 posted on 08/03/2011 8:58:49 AM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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“I wanted them to succeed, because I believe their continued failure on these terrible tests crushes their spirit,”

This is an incredibly cruel thing to do. Eventually they will have to deal with someone who has expectations of them that can not be met and that person won't give a damn about their spirits. By then, of course, it will be too late.

29 posted on 08/03/2011 9:00:20 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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So, when these kids get out in the real world is she going to be on the job with them so she can give them the definitions of words they don’t understand?

She wants them to succeed but sends them out not being able to read.


30 posted on 08/03/2011 9:11:46 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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Liberal politicians
Liberal teacher’s unions
Liberal War on Poverty
Liberal philosophy of no standards or consequences
Liberal teachers
Liberal cheating

Liberal whining of why they broke the law.

Liberalism is the reason we are in this mess. The correction will be difficult, but needs to happen, pronto. Those poor black kids are stupid, they are just raised by parents who mostly have never had to support themselves and do not care as they do not struggle to provide their own basic needs.

It erodes from there.

Democrats love this as a permenanent voting bloc has been established and the needy beget the needy, who all vote for the freebies, which equals Government spending, debt and now we...”Have no more road to kick the can” to cite Tom McClintock on Monday.


31 posted on 08/03/2011 9:14:11 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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I'm not a gambling man. I wouldn't bet on the sun coming up tomorrow morning. But I would bet that any government program that's called "No Child Left Behind" will leave a whole hell of a lot of children behind.
33 posted on 08/03/2011 9:23:20 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Need more teachers like James Earl Jones in “Soul Man” (not a great movie), but this was a great line to the character that was trying to be black:

“If you have to work twice as hard as these little white sh***, you damn well better work twice as hard.”


41 posted on 08/03/2011 9:45:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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If you wanted to keep minorities poor and dependent on government, there would be no better instrument than the current public schools.

It is time to shutter the Department of Education and close all public schools completely and forever.


43 posted on 08/03/2011 9:46:08 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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The moral failure of the teachers is the least of it. A system that places teachers in such an untenable position — basically forcing kids to pass tests that they can’t pass — is completely broken. Putting a bunch of teachers in jail isn’t going to fix the system. It’s just a way for the system to chew up more victims.

Replace the districts with charter schools that work. Create a voucher system. Support home schooling. But close down the districts — they can’t be saved.


46 posted on 08/03/2011 9:54:26 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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49 posted on 08/03/2011 10:02:15 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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“As W put it, the soft bigotry of low expectations.”

Triple Ditto; as you beat me to the money quote.!!!

Type a little slower next time please!!!!


51 posted on 08/03/2011 10:15:54 AM PDT by Wuli
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The infuriating part of cheating to "help" black students "succeed" is that decades ago, when doors were closed to educated, degreed, intelligent blacks, such people as educated, degreed, intelligent blacks existed and still were produced by the schools--they were not created for window dressing or to fill quotas, but achieved what they did by their own hard work.

Now, their grandchildren and great-children are being cheated by the system by the pervasive bigotry of very low expectations, by their self-appointed "leaders", and by brainwashing that they deserve a certain level of income as reparations for the past.
53 posted on 08/03/2011 10:21:42 AM PDT by Nepeta
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““I wanted them to succeed, because I believe their continued failure on these terrible tests crushes their spirit,” the unidentified teacher told the Notebook.org,”

So, when they fail in life, because they basically had someone do everything for them in school, they won’t feel bad? Firstly NCLB is a failure- expecting 100% of all students to pass all the time is an essentially stupid proposition to begin with. No human, mechanical or electrical enterprise is 100% efficient. Secondly, education should focus on matters as achievement, excellence, and virtue, not wastes of time and money, such self-esteem and diversity.

Finally, this teacher in the article is doing no one any good. If you taught the material, that’s all you can do, and all that is right to do. It may suck to watch your students fail over and over. I had a student once who had my class 4 times- the student simply refused to do the assignments and in each case, failed. But I wasn’t going to pass that student- that would be wrong. It would be damaging to the student- they learned they could nothing and get by; it would be damaging to the next teacher in the next class for the same reason, plus nothing to build on for the next class; and lastly, damaging to me- I would have to lower my ethical standards. The teacher in the article has none, in my opinion.


54 posted on 08/03/2011 10:28:47 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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Integrity left the scene when shame was destroyed.


57 posted on 08/03/2011 10:57:07 AM PDT by hattend (As always... FUJM.)
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The hilarious result of a Republican President trying to force them to earn their pay.

This is life in the former great America.


69 posted on 08/03/2011 1:16:18 PM PDT by The Toll
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It’s not fair to expect black children to pass tests.
I guess that’s what this teacher means (shrug).

The only thing I give a rat’s behind about is that my state tax dollars are being dumped down the government school toilet.


83 posted on 08/03/2011 10:02:30 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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