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As W put it, the soft bigotry of low expectations.
1 posted on 08/03/2011 8:30:24 AM PDT by flowerplough
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Our pampered kids will be competing with Indian and Chinese kids who get tough love from the parents and teachers.


2 posted on 08/03/2011 8:33:50 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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Or perhaps just self-serving corruption.


3 posted on 08/03/2011 8:35:14 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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Would it help if the tests were written in ebonics?


4 posted on 08/03/2011 8:35:45 AM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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So the black kids are too dumb to learn it. Why aren’t the teachers being called racists? I guess to the black community they’re heroines for helping the kids get through school even though they didn’t learn anything. That’s the stupid logic of liberalism.


5 posted on 08/03/2011 8:36:01 AM PDT by Reagan is King
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W was wrong.


6 posted on 08/03/2011 8:36:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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“Crushes their spirits”?

I read a study done of “self esteem” and academic performance a few years ago, and it revealed that the students with the highest self esteem also had the lowest academic achievement rates. As self esteem dropped, academic performance rose. Pride in performance rose, but that’s different from the basic idea of “hey, I’m wonderful just as I am.”

So the problem with these kids is not that they have too little “self esteem,” but they have too much of it and it’s not based on any contact with outside reality. Tests are a reality check and this might lower their self-esteem and actually make them do something proactive (such as study) for once in their lives.


7 posted on 08/03/2011 8:37:06 AM PDT by livius
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It is no accident that the dumbest students and most failing schools coincide with places where liberal politics have run without challenge for decades.

It has nothing to do with “Diversity” it has to do with bleeding hearts creating a dependency class, and stealing any chance for success by failed policies and misguided notions of “compassion”.

What hard liberals never can understand, is that sometimes the most compassionate thing you can do, is NOTHING at all. Telling someone “NO” is not innately uncompassionate or cruel, at times it is the most compassionate thing you can do. Saying yes to someone who needs to hear a no is the easy, cowardly and weak answer.


8 posted on 08/03/2011 8:37:06 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Never occcured to the teacher to invest in her teaching skills so the students could learn, or to find their pathway to learning. Just teach cheating! Then send them to the next teacher, HOPING he/she will CHANGE the pattern that he/she has already set.


9 posted on 08/03/2011 8:39:50 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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“I wanted them to succeed, because I believe their continued failure on these terrible tests crushes their spirit,”

Hey, how about teaching them the subjects so they can pass the tests?


10 posted on 08/03/2011 8:40:52 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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As W put it, the soft bigotry of low expectations.

Perhaps some low expectations, but also bad attitudes and, in many cases, low IQ.

The underlying assumption of the testing legislation is that just about EVERY kid WOULD BE ABLE to score high on the test with sufficient instruction. It appears that a percentage are unable to score adequately regardless of how much money is spent.

Part of the solution might be to mandate that no teacher could be hired who was not able to score well on standardized tests in any subject she might be tasked to teach, but that would be struck down as racist.

11 posted on 08/03/2011 8:41:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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“I wanted them to succeed,...... "

How is receiving a better grade that doesn't represent their true grasp of a subject help them succeed down the road? They will continue to fall farther and farther behind.
13 posted on 08/03/2011 8:44:01 AM PDT by Girlene
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“I wanted them to succeed”

Wellllll......”them” didn’t succeed because you failed to do your JOB. You didn’t teach them the information “them” needed to know.

Either “them” failed for not learning, or the teachers failed for not teaching “them”.

As it stands now, “them” failed, and the teachers failed.


14 posted on 08/03/2011 8:44:01 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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Nothing new here. Just affirmative action doing what it is supposed to do.

“According to a veteran Philadelphia teacher.

“I wanted them to succeed, because I believe their continued failure on these terrible tests crushes their spirit,” the unidentified teacher told the Notebook.org, a Philadelphia Public School site that serves as an independent voice for parents, educators and students. The teacher says she regularly provided assistance including definitions to unfamiliar words, comments on writing samples during tests, and says that she even discussed reading passages that they didn’t understand.


15 posted on 08/03/2011 8:45:28 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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Is there ever a worthy explanation as to why a teacher would help her students cheat on a test?

Training to help them deal with the US Gov't and society in their future adult lives?

17 posted on 08/03/2011 8:46:43 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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One needs scientific notation to adequately express the stupidity of modern “educators”.

Some things are hard.

Some kids might not ever get it. (And given the quality of our “educators,” it’s not all the fault of the child.)

My curse: “May educators be operated on by those students that were helped by cheating.”


18 posted on 08/03/2011 8:47:05 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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When I went to back to college there was a black woman in the class with 3 kids.

She told me she would study at home in her kitchen but complained that the kids were all around, interupting her constantly. She also complained to me all her friends would call and she found she couldn’t get off the phone with them, (same as she did just before class).

She ‘had to’ give up studying before even getting started and come to class totally unprepared.

The class was Algebra and of course she was failing. She never studied at a study room in college, saying that was too much time to give up.

The teacher often paired us up together in the classroom for problem solving she would give us during the classes.

At home I studied incessantly, consequently was getting high marks and so you know what, the teacher was angry at me for NOT helping this woman ‘pass’ the tests.

I couldn’t believe it.


19 posted on 08/03/2011 8:47:05 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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Isn’t it interesting that there have been excellent public schools which had all Black students and cheating was not allowed? Look up “Dunbar” in Washington D.C. and see what was accomplished there in the 20s and 30s.

But now we expect Black kids to be dumber than a box of rocks and are rarely disappointed.


20 posted on 08/03/2011 8:47:19 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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“I wanted them to succeed, because I believe their continued failure on these terrible tests crushes their spirit,”

My first university teaching job was at a university most of you would know because of their basketball prowess. Just before the end of my first semester, two members of the basketball team came in and asked for their copy of the econ final exam. I said it wasn't for two more weeks and they said they knew that but they wanted an advanced copy to study. I said no and, after five minutes of arguing, they left. Two minutes after that one of the most liberal econ profs was in my office hotter than a two dollar pistol wanting to know why I wouldn't give them a copy of the final. I told him I don't do those kind of things...it would not be fair to the other students.

I was then given a lecture on how these were disadvantage people who need a break to get through college...that I needed to have compassion for them.

Really?

I proceeded to tell him that these two ball players were not good enough to make it in the NBA so they were going to have to find a non-sports job. So they get hired because they have a University degree. Within a few hours, that employer is going to know they can't even form a proper English sentence, let alone be worth their wage. They will be fired. But the real cost is not losing their job. The real cost is that any future graduate from that university will likely be passed over by that employer, shutting the door on those who earned their degree.

He looked at me...smoke coming from under his collar...and stormed out of the room. He could not defend his position.

I never had another basketball player in my class.

21 posted on 08/03/2011 8:48:16 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are dumber than soup.)
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“I wanted them to succeed, because I believe their continued failure on these terrible tests crushes their spirit,”

Then, teach something damn it!


23 posted on 08/03/2011 8:48:34 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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The “white” system of learning was developed over thousands of years, and then we just “dropped” blacks in less than 100 years ago.

Is it racist to suggest that blacks and whites may learn differently?


24 posted on 08/03/2011 8:49:05 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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