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Reid: Joint Committee Must Include Taxes Or Trigger Will Kick In
Real Clear Politics ^ | 8/2/2011

Posted on 08/02/2011 10:09:38 AM PDT by GreaterSwiss

"We've had too much talk the last few days of Republicans as early as this morning, Republican leaders in the Senate saying there will be no revenue. That's not going to happen. Otherwise, the trigger is going to kick in. The only way we can arrive at a fair arrangement for the American people with this joint committee is to have equal sharing. It's going to be painful. Each party if they do the right thing, it's going to be painful for them because to be fair, we have to move forward. There has to be equal spending cuts, there has to be some revenue that matches that," Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) said on the floor of the Senate right before voting started on the debt deal. Increased revenue from taxes was not included in the debt compromise.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; govtabuse; liberalfascism; notbreakingnews; reid; socialism; socialistdemocrats; taxcheatparty; taxes
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To: Lucky9teen
U.S. Constituion -Article 1 - Section 8. The Congress shall have power .....To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

Were you thinking of a different Constitution?

81 posted on 08/02/2011 11:11:24 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: MNJohnnie
People really need to learn what is in this bill.

Facts don't matter to people who really love to get their knickers in a twist on at least an hourly basis.

82 posted on 08/02/2011 11:12:50 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: freespirited

Our friends have a house cleaner that comes once a week in her brand new Mercedes. I strongly doubt she declares her income.


83 posted on 08/02/2011 11:14:22 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: CDB

Try NONE OF THE ABOVE. I am so sick of the Republican bashing that goes on here.


84 posted on 08/02/2011 11:14:51 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RockinRight

“Why do they assume tax increases will result in higher revenue?”

They never make that assumption. They want tax increases until they finally hit the magic 100% tax rate. Then the people are enslaved but at least we have the beneficent government taking care of all of our needs.


85 posted on 08/02/2011 11:18:42 AM PDT by FerociousRabbit
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To: GreaterSwiss

The trap..Invisible to the Pubies! Don’t ya just luv it! NOT!


86 posted on 08/02/2011 11:19:40 AM PDT by Bobby_Taxpayer (Don't tread on us...or you'll pay the price in the next election.)
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To: Perdogg
That is not true, every thing gets cut not just Defense,

I think the problem is if cuts are made 50% of the cuts must come from defense. It is not across the board. If they really wanted to cut across the board then all they had to do was freeze budgets at last years level. We can never get ahead of these guys as long as there is baseline budgeting.

87 posted on 08/02/2011 11:23:00 AM PDT by itsahoot (--I will vote for Sarah Palin, even if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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To: y6162

The Pubies DO have another avenue with the appropriations bills and failing that with the CR. Put their next stand in the CR for 3 months only (until end of Dec). The Demons can either go with a conservative fiscal position or shut down the government come 1 October. Then again on 1 January if they insist on tax increases. The Pubies STILL have leverage.


88 posted on 08/02/2011 11:32:15 AM PDT by Bobby_Taxpayer (Don't tread on us...or you'll pay the price in the next election.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

The GOP needs to put six highly articulate members on this committee because they will have a guaranteed platform on tv into the election season. Rubio, Ryan, Lee, Ron Johnson, etc. If McConnell and Boehner put a bunch of wimps or wonks, or tax raisers, they may well both be sitting in minority leader offices in Jan 2012. This bill has good and bad, but the bad is mostly in how this idiotic supercommitee ends up going. We can win in the end if that part of it goes well.


89 posted on 08/02/2011 11:33:02 AM PDT by ilgipper (political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell))
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To: Wolfstar
Try NONE OF THE ABOVE. I am so sick of the Republican bashing that goes on here.

You're right. I forgot to add option e) Co-conspirators.

90 posted on 08/02/2011 11:35:45 AM PDT by CDB ("...the liberals' praise is a warning bell you must heed. Trust me on that." - Sarah Palin)
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To: sanjuanbob

Years ago we briefly had a cleaning person who insisted on being paid in cash. Did not take us long to figure out she was collecting welfare, medicaid, etc despite having four days a week work.


91 posted on 08/02/2011 11:36:28 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: GreaterSwiss; All

He needs to read the bil. That’s just not true.

The Dems will try to make the commission raise taxes because they failed to get taxes raised this time, but there is no requirement for that.

Regardless, that commission better get going. We still need another 2-3 trillion in cuts ASAP.


92 posted on 08/02/2011 11:39:09 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: MNJohnnie
Factually incorrect. People really need to learn what is in this bill.

you are either very naive or you work for the Federal government.

This bill does NOT cut any spending. Each year the debt goes up. Do you understand that the government will obligate the taxpayers to pay for the increased debt??

Do you understand that the government will resort to monetizing the debt (a hideous hidden tax of the worse kind)

Anyone claiming to be a conservative who believes this bill does anything to reduce spending is delusional. Any so called cuts are a total joke on the American people.

The power of the State increases greatly with this bill.

93 posted on 08/02/2011 11:39:47 AM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces her run: August 12, 2011 11:10am ET)
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To: Siegfried X
And they made the President and other Democrats eat their words and surrender by agreeing to spending cuts without any tax increases. It’s a tremendous victory.

I hope you forgot the /sarc tag :) That's a good one :)

94 posted on 08/02/2011 11:42:39 AM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces her run: August 12, 2011 11:10am ET)
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To: sickoflibs

Actually, cuts in defense were inevitable, so this was a free giveaway. Obama is winding down our involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq whatever Congress says. You can’t believe that the Defense cuts wouldn’t be attached to that, like white on rice.


95 posted on 08/02/2011 11:43:24 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Bobby_Taxpayer

Yes. Pubbies win when the topic is spending. A government shutdown will be very popular. The Kenyan lizard dramatically lost demanding more taxes. Class warfare rhetoric sounds so yesterday.

All attempts to smear the Tea Party have failed. Let’s rock!


96 posted on 08/02/2011 11:43:27 AM PDT by y6162
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To: Siegfried X
If there are tax increases built into this bill, then why aren’t Reid and the Democrats bragging about them? Answer: because they aren’t there. There are no built-in tax increases.

The government will monetize the debt. You don't consider that a tax? The power of the State will only increase with this bill.

97 posted on 08/02/2011 11:44:54 AM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces her run: August 12, 2011 11:10am ET)
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To: Bobby_Taxpayer
The Pubies DO have another avenue with the appropriations bills and failing that with the CR. Put their next stand in the CR for 3 months only (until end of Dec). The Demons can either go with a conservative fiscal position or shut down the government come 1 October. Then again on 1 January if they insist on tax increases. The Pubies STILL have leverage.

Are we looking at the same Republican leadership?

98 posted on 08/02/2011 11:47:15 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: GreaterSwiss

“the trigger”

This is the new idiot word for the next few days, which all the news people are going to use.

It is going to replace “kick the can down the road.”


99 posted on 08/02/2011 11:47:32 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: ilgipper
The GOP needs to put six highly articulate members on this committee because they will have a guaranteed platform on tv into the election season. Rubio, Ryan, Lee, Ron Johnson, etc.

LOL! Are you serious?

My prediction for Senate Republican members: McCain, Snowe (or Collins) and Brown.

100 posted on 08/02/2011 11:50:41 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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