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To: NFHale
If you personally were ordered to go door to door to collect citizens firearms, would you do it (rhetorical question).

No. ( and you can chose to believe this or not) The three of us on our squad have made a personal pact, if there is ever a nationalization of police or 'national orders' (for any other reason except say armageddon from china or north korea etc) our PD is deserted and our badges are on the booking room floor. We all have families to protect.

Think about cops like the assh*le in Canton Ohio who threatened to murder a citizen in cold blood - right there on his own dash cam, and his partner who did nothing to defuse the situation.

My squad is no stranger to FR and they know I read it often. Whenever I see this crap I bring it up and we discuss it. Every time we've discussed bad cop stories we've all been in agreement that they were a bad cop.

Lurker always wants to know what I am doing to fix this problem. Well I'm no superhero but I make sure I keep up on the law and especially keep up on the bad-cop news stories to keep me on the straight and narrow. Our whole cadre of officers just this year got policy changed at our PD, nothing mindblowing but some stuff got changed for the better with regards to how things are done and it is beneficial to the public.

Unlike Lurker I don't have personal delusions of grandeur with how important I am. It's not going to be what I have necessarily already done to "fix things" it's what I'm willing or NOT willing to do if the proverbial sh*t ever truly hits the fan.
67 posted on 08/01/2011 10:04:05 AM PDT by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great sight for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: brent13a

“...No. ( and you can chose to believe this or not) ...”

I do believe you, believe it or not.

If that’s the case, you’re a good man, and a good American, brother.

Hope to God there’s more like you.


68 posted on 08/01/2011 10:08:34 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: brent13a

FWIW, most cops I’ve dealt with have been professional.

The neighborhood where I live is a bit off the beaten path. A house on fire up the street took 15 minutes for a fire truck to arrive. The one time I know of where the cops were called for someone trying to open a window at night, it took close to 20 minutes. (I told the lady if it happened again to call me. I’m about 2 minutes away by car.) We’re also 60 miles from Mexico.

So when there is a disturbance of some sort, I get a gun before I go looking. My problem is with SWAT teams and forced entries. If the address is wrong - and it sometimes is - then an innocent person is in danger from the SWAT team.

SWAT makes sense for hostage situations. For serving a warrant? Not so much sense. And if the knock on the door doesn’t allow a homeowner time to get to the door, it is effectively a no-knock forced entry.


69 posted on 08/01/2011 10:17:10 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: brent13a

One other story...

When I was getting my CCW license, the retired cop teaching the class was asked about procedures when stopped by the police. He explained what the law said & how he handled it.

Since the law in AZ doesn’t require you to reveal a concealed gun unless asked, he said he kept silent. That was due to an incident a year earlier, when he was stopped for speeding (which he was guilty of) and he volunteered that he was carry a concealed weapon. He said the cop drew his Glock, stuck it next to his face, and told him, “Don’t move! Hand it over!”

The guy’s response was, without moving, “I’m a retired cop and I will do what you say, but I need to know if you want me to stay still, or to move my hand to give the gun to you.” It ended peaceably, but he decided after that to keep quiet (per AZ law) unless asked.


70 posted on 08/01/2011 10:23:58 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: brent13a

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2724518/posts?page=10#10


76 posted on 08/01/2011 11:22:57 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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