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To: reaganaut; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator

So because I believe Government should keep its nose out of the sacrament of marriage (look where Government involvement has gotten us already), then I must support gay marriage and the destruction of marriage?

Do you support Government dictate regarding prayer? If not, then you support destruction of prayer and support for satanic sacrifice.

Wanting Government OUT of something that was set up by God and given as a sacrament is NOT the same thing as wanting to see the opposite flourish and succeed; it is trying to keep Caesar doing what is Caesar’s, and God in charge of what is God’s.

I have been quite explicit in stating I want Government out of marriage; we see what Government involved in marriage has wrought (the breakdown of the family, out-of-wedlock births, gay marriage) and as a result the holiness and respect for the institution as a whole has been lowered. We can try to fight to put the genie back in the bottle, or simply take the bottle away from Government in the first place.

Government has NO RIGHT to tell me that my marriage is only acceptable and real because they issued a piece of paper to me; it was made real and holy when I pledged in a Church to God and those fellow believers gathered. I don’t need a Government to bless and condone what I do with God and the Church.


57 posted on 07/31/2011 7:13:50 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: FromTheSidelines; Flycatcher

I am all for keeping the Government out of my religion, in fact the first amendment requires it. However that has nothing to do with the LEGAL ENTITY of marriage.

You seem to be equating to different things. My husband and I got married in a church, we made a covenant before God, however we needed a license and signatures in order to have it legally recognized. Separate things entirely. You do not need the former (ceremony) to have the latter (legal marriage). THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS.

The dissolution of the legal entity of marriage (which you are advocating) is destructive to civilization. Legal marriage was created to provide protection of women and children and still forms that function which is why we are fighting so hard to keep it. The legal function of marriage dates back to the earliest laws and legal systems.


60 posted on 07/31/2011 7:30:33 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: FromTheSidelines

So because I believe Government should keep its nose out of the sacrament of marriage
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Thats one big reason the polygamous Mormons ran from state to state...

They were looking for a place they could where the US government couldnt get on their case for their extra “marriages”

There have always been laws in the US against bigamy..

It was called unlawful cohabitation and was a jailable offence..

They finally decided to go to (Mexico) Utah Teritory out of the reach of the long arm of the American law...

If they had just had one wife and obeyed the law they could have settled down and lived peacefully

The ones who stayed in MO and lived decent lives have descendants living there yet...

The Mormons regarded their polygamy as “sacred”


99 posted on 07/31/2011 11:48:57 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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